We will lose in the big cup matches. Wane cannot tell a good player from a mediocre one,so we will fall short.

I hate Castleford from bitter experience. Well we know what to expect.

Yes IL has been a grave disappointment,from the clubs point of view. A new owner might put some more drive in on the playing side,which is below par for Wigan. Bring it on.

Front rowers are improving nicely..Our backrow looks increasingly old and underpowered.

Our record in the challenge cup is poor both under Wane and since 1995/6.Players know this ,and I assume they think Wane is clueless as his record shows.

Fair enough,but this cannot go on much beyond this year without some signs of enlightment.

<t>The club worked hard in pre season to try and work out how to become a winning side,something Wane has not been up to .the mentality was and is and right. Wanes chronic promplem is he does not know a good player from a ordinary one. The massive amount of salary cap not playing tonight gives hope ...

The rot set in for Charnley when the McGuire influence finally died,we lost forward power ,and the easy tries dried up for the left side backs. Goulding was found out.Could not make a break.

Wigan are disintegrating under Wane.

Think David Bolton.