<t>Not sure we listened to the same commentary given some comments here. I though Carney showed some bias towards us (as you might historically expect).<br/> Its hard to compliment wigans kicking this season, and while most of the tries tonight were far out, we surely all agree that Bowen is not Pat...

<t>I thought we matched them in all areas. Forwards, despite mostly youngsters (bateman is still young, as is Crosby (ISH)) easily matched BB. Backs were fine, Matty Smith looked a captain in all but title.<br/> <br/> Very even game, would have been much better on a decent pitch.<br/> <br/> TBH, and...

<t>WRL could do very little here, the RFL panel had all the cards, and the support for Ben starts now from WRL. The punishment given to Ben is strong, but not as bad as it could have been.<br/> The best way Wigan can support Ben now is to accept the punishment, send him off for a long holiday, and l...

Short or not, this is the current view or RL we are discussing.

<t>As a Wigan fan, I expect to be vilified for this post, but it is my view of what the RFL faced.<br/> I live in Harpdenden, a rugby union town like no other, albeit with Andy and Owen Farrell in location.<br/> When Ben threw the second punch, it was met with sheer horror by all in the pub I was wa...

If they don't fight, Ben will get done over. Wigan must get their lawyers into this argument and put it where it should be. Yes Ben went way over the line, but lets not get done over due to the publicity.

Turn up with a photo of the elbow Ben got hit with, and go from there.

Yes - its that simple.
Done a great job in an increasingly competitive league.

<t>The RFL have a difficult job with all the publicity on this one. The second punch is all the press are talking about, the game itself is virtually forgotten. They will feel that they must be seen to act in a tough way.<br/> The only mitigation I can see is not a no. of matches, but duration led b...

<t>I am not sure Hohiah deserved a red. I reckon in a normal game he may have got a yellow. Now given the severity of the Flower retaliation I think most referees would "wipe the yellow away". Just my opinion so happy to discuss. [/quote]<br/> <br/> As an ex ref, I would have to agree. Ben blew it w...

<t>I hate to say it, but Ben is in for a long one IMO<br/> I love the guy personally, and he knows he has stuffed up. He is a genuine professional with a decent record, but this is the wrong incident at the wrong time.<br/> <br/> Lets look at the incident, and what the RFL will consider.<br/> <br/> ...