Ellis to prop, Chan to LF and Hill on the bench. Yes i agree we dont need to be to dependant on ellis as a 13 as he only plays as a prop anyway.We are the weakest we have been for years in the backrow with injuries and age.I hit on this pre season as faz and isa are past there best to be honest.Pit...

I'm not trying to stir things here, or criticise anyone, but in 61 years watching RL and Wigan, fans have always complained about refs. Two incidents I remember: as a 13 or 14 year old kid, I was ranting about a ref giving a try against us: "It wasn't a try!!!" Bloke next to me (a Wiganer)...

Great to read some very honest and realistic comments on here. I sometimes switch off at the "blame the ref" and "the end is nigh" sort of stuff.

We lost but we can do much better. THE END (© Medlocke.)

Tactically we have been poor today.Didnt deserve to lose but didnt deserve to win either.When faz is running from acting half on tackle 4 you know we are devoid of ideas.I know a lot of people will disagree but im still not convinced with bev as a six Agree with most of what you say, Fs. I think, o...

We didn't offer much against their line speed in the first half. We were a man shot for 1/3rd of the match, but Saints have shown that they are still capable of matching us on their day. Can they do it over a season - I doubt it.

Early call for MoM - Brad O'Neill

Red card for Byrne is wrong

Thanks to both of you. Great memories stirred by a great player. We are lucky to have seen so many wearing cherry and white.

Was Bill at Gullick Dobson when you were MPE? By the way, he got a terrific send off irrespective of the Club's failure to attend. Many former players attended, including the great Billy B, Phil and Andy Clarke were coffin bearers, and his daughter gave a fitting eulogy. I didn't work for Gullicks,...

I missed this thread for some reason. Very sad news. Bill Francis was a hero of mine. Though I started attending matches aged 12 in the 63/64 season, I guess it took a while for me to start to understand the finer points of the game. It was watching Bill in the late 60s and early 70s, especially whe...