Wigan Warriors explore loan options as reserves hopes grounded

[pedro]

SUPER LEAGUE RESERVES SCANDAL DESTROYING GAME’S EMERGING TALENT

Here we go again! As I write this, the RFL and certain clubs are, yet again, foolishly letting the game and young emerging talent down, all in the name of giving a few overseas dinosaurs one last payday before they draw their pension.

A few months ago Ralph Rimmer, the new CEO of the Rugby Football League, stated that 11 current Super League clubs had expressed a desire to run a full Reserves League in 2019, with Gary Hetherington at Leeds Rhinos the only dissenting voice, saying that teams should continue with the utterly shambolic Dual Registration format, which has embarrassed the game for many years!

New Super League CEO Robert Elstone also went so far as to say that maybe teams should have to run a reserve team, to be allowed in Super League, making it compulsory for teams to run one, it was glorious, it was the kick up the backside that Super League needed, even more than anything else, however it didn’t last long!

Recently it has come to our attention, that only eight clubs had said they will run a reserve team in 2019, with only Hull FC and Wigan Warriors from Super League willing to enter a team in it, then came the bombshell from Kris Radlinski, that Wigan were now reviewing their position about it.

In the meantime, Hull FC have confirmed that they are still committed to the Reserves League, while Wigan are again threatening to only let their reserves play against other Super League opposition, something they did in 2016 and 2017 as well, but without Warrington Wolves and St. Helens providing opposition, surely such an idea should be unthinkable now, shouldn’t it?

The current thinking now seems to be, a Reserves League will be arranged for 2020, what a bloody insult to our intelligence!

Looking at the running farce, it doesn’t exactly take Einstein to work out what will happen! When it comes to 2020, it will no doubt be the same excuses, like ‘We can’t afford it’ or ‘Dual Registration is the best way to go’, it happened before, it will happen again!

Certain teams ran reserves, Wigan would only play against Hull FC, Warrington Wolves and St. Helens reserves, they refused to play the likes of South Wales Ironmen, Halifax and Keighley Cougars reserves, because they weren’t a good enough standard, to play against the next breed of Wigan supermen!

As a media intern for Hull FC in 2016 and 2017, reporting regularly on Hull FC reserves games, I can tell you that certainly Halifax reserves regularly gave Hull FC reserves a better, more competitive game, than the Warriors reserves did at times, I saw Hull FC reserves beat them both, at home and on the road, there were standout matches, like a four point win for the young Black & Whites against Halifax at Hull Ionians ground, another being a thumping 30+ point victory for Hull against the Warriors reserves at the Wigan training ground.

Wigan need to understand, you cannot afford to pick and choose who your reserves will or will not play against, at the moment there just aren’t enough reserves teams, and the whole of Super League need to understand, that a reserves league is an absolute necessity, if the game is ever going to grow, produce new talent and stop having to rely on expensive second rate Australians and Kiwis, with the occasional bit of quality, in the form of a player who has done something stupid down under, and therefore is sent to whichever Super League club who can afford a huge wage, to serve his punishment, before returning to the NRL.

There has been a bit of a shift in recent times, with the likes of Warrington signing Blake Austin, Leeds signing Trent Merrin and Konrad Hurrell etc, genuinely big name signings, who will improve the Super League competition, however consider this, what sort of influence could players like these, have on our young talent?

The damage to the British game is there for all to see at the moment, one of my colleagues has told me that ‘A generation of players, are being let down’ by this current system.

The other consideration also has to be, while a team are spending big in ailing overseas former stars, how many young British players could they have on their books, for the collective sum they are paying one overseas player, who could then replace said ageing star, when he is inevitably struck down by injury due to his age?

The RFL and the clubs have to understand, a competitive Reserves League will breed better player development, it will give injured stars a better platform to develop match fitness when returning from injury, it will give young players the chance to test themselves against established Super League, maybe even international standard players, on a regular basis, proving themselves good enough, to then play against those same players a few weeks later in Super League or Challenge Cup!

In my previous articles about having a reserves competition, I named players who played in reserves teams in 2016 and 2017, who then went on those same years to play in showpiece games at Wembley and Old Trafford, including the likes of Declan Patton, Tom Lineham, Steve Michaels, Josh Griffin, Gareth Ellis, Brad Dwyer the list goes on, I can also name current England international Jake Connor as a player who played in the reserves as recently as 2017!

We have the players to develop, there is absolutely no doubting that, we now need a good solid platform, beyond the academy set-up, to allow them to develop further and really flourish, before they are lost to the game.

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did we not win the reserve league?, bit rich from a club that didnt run its own academy...did Hull run a reserves last year?

[moto748]

Who wrote that piece?

Reserve team *should* be compulsory.

[fozzieskem]

I thought a functioning reserve league was something Elstone and co were going to insist on?

Yes he's been put in his place by his paymasters on this hasn't he?

And yes a reserve side should be compulsory,that Wigan have decided not doesn't sit well with me, sometimes you can't put price on things, this for me is one of those things.

[josie andrews]

Wigan Warriors star Dom Manfredi's plea to make reserves mandatory

Dom Manfredi says he owes his Grand Final heroics – and his new contract – to the fact Wigan had a reserve side last year.

And as the issue about Super League’s failure to bring in a second-string competition again rages, the winger has urged clubs to make it compulsory.

Manfredi underlined the importance the reserves plays not only for youngsters, but also injured players returning to fitness.

He spent two years on the sidelines battling successive, serious knee injuries and – given his return to fitness was after the loan deadline – he believes he would still be waiting to play a match if he hadn’t had the chance to prove his fitness in a second-string match.

He, of course, went on to re-establish himself back in the Warriors side and was their two-try star at Old Trafford last month.

Wigan last week rewarded him with a new three-year contract but it isn’t hard for the academy-product to imagine very different circumstances.

“If Wigan didn’t have a reserves last season, and I didn’t get those two games in first, I wouldn’t have played last season – without a doubt,” he said defiantly. “I wouldn’t have played in the Grand Final.

No way would they have picked me after two years out, without a game in first, and you couldn’t blame them.

“Credit to Wigan for doing it. I think every club needs to buy into having a reserves, not just a couple. “I 100 per cent think it should be mandatory – too many players are getting lost from the game.”

Despite their vocal support for the reserves, Warriors admitted last week they may consider scrapping plans for a reserve team in 2019. It isn’t that they don’t believe, or want, to have a side – but the fact they won’t have enough quality opponents to face.

With St Helens and Warrington not resurrecting their reserves, it has left Wakefield and Hull FC as the only other Super League clubs on board.

Four teams from Championship and League One will complete the seven outfits who will have reserves playing on a friendly basis.

Executive director Kris Radlinski believes it is “crazy” that reserves is not mandatory and says all head of youths and ex-players believe it is the best pathway for youngsters. Anyone too old for the Under-19s will have to gain experience playing on loan, or dual-registration (a week-to-week loan arrangement) for lower-league clubs.

“It is 100 per cent the right pathway, but the competition is not what we wanted and not what we bought into,” said Radlinski. “What we want is a competition which provides players with the next step down from Super League.

“Playing a Championship club’s reserve team, with all due respect, is not the next step down. So we have to look at it.
“When we saw the teams involved it was disappointing for us, having said we were fully committed to it.”

He hopes a competitive reserve league – with St Helens and Warrington, two clubs who have previously backed the system – could be in place for 2020, but admits it has yet to be discussed at Super League board level.

“I think if we do end up pulling out it may send a real message,” said Radlinski. “In the next 12 months hopefully it will become mandatory but we don’t know at this stage.”

Manfredi, meanwhile, said it was an easy decision to sign a new deal. “When Rads approached me I was pretty shocked, it was too good to turn down,” he said.

“It was the quickest deal I ever signed, negotiations didn’t take long at all!

“I’m still in dreamland about the Grand Final, it’s not sunk in. It’s all unbelievable.”

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[jaws1]

Simple solution (scrap in name only the under 19s) and make them the reserve team means players do not need to go out on loan when they turn 19.

[doc]

Personally I would return to the old U18 and U21 system where you were allowed a few overage players in the U21 team.