Enough is enough

[Mickw]

First 2 sets we gave away penalties, was always an uphill struggle after that.

a referee who knows the offside rule but only for one team apparently.
Refereeing to orders is what it looked liked to me and this season its happening more and more.

[Caboosegg]

Come on IL the time has come to cut your losses and admit you got it wrong with lam and sack him today we have 3 wins from 11 games the max number of points this season for us is 30 if we win the next 11 game which by the way we are playing we will be lucky to get 2 points .with lam in charge we have gone backwards not forward’s .he will probably have flower playing the wing on Monday.please put us out of our misery and sack him he’s had enough time

Its lenegan that needs to move on.

So we can end up like widnes? Or salford? IL goes and we will be pennyless as well as rudderless.

NO ONE is lining up to buy Wigan.

[Cherry_Warrior]

Listening to WishFM a lot of our problems seem to revolve around Leuluai
not being able to last more than 20 minutes and leaving gaps in the middle of the field. Did I hear in right that after ond of our rare breaks we played the ball with no acting half back here.
Lyons was summarising as well as it was the derby but early on he remarked that 2019 Stains were like 2018 Wigan in as much as they absorb the pressure for 60 minutes then run away with it in the last 20 and that was how it turned out.
When Leuluai came back wasn't it said he was here to play for 1 year and then he was to move onto the coaching side. Why was it decided and by whom that he should play this year?

it was embarrassing, tommy was on his haunches in back play. Hes too unfit. Same age as Roby and well its shocking the fitness level difference. To be fair it wasnt only him. It was a shambles all over, passing from a scrum to no-one and richardson racing 60 metres. Isa just throwing the ball into touch in stead of looking where his winger was, shooting out of the line to smash people and not doing but leaving a massive gap. Penalties, penalties, penalties we really seem like the dumbest team in the league,

TL was out of it from the start. I 100% believe if we didnt have the issues we do injuries wise that he wouldnt have played today as he looked injured from the hooter.

All i can say is Escare must have done something to Majorily upset Lam i full expected him to play to cover hooker today bit instead we had a 80 hooker who was on 1 leg from kick off.

Oh he has. Not just this season but last also. Last post i post on either board. All the best.

[ancientnloyal]

[Caboosegg]

Did alright at salford didnt he... left them successful and rich.

[medlocke]

Did alright at salford didnt he... left them successful and rich.

I'd be happy with him

[sheepsteeth]

I'm afraid I agree. It looks as if we don't practice the basics during the week and consequently we come up short against really straightforward teams, let alone good ones.
We have too many players who really aren't good enough - they might get carried when we are strong elsewhere but when we struggle, it shows.
Apart from breaking the bank to persuade Sam to come back, we need to get Hardaker away from full-back. He doesn't like the high ball under challenge and seems to be weak - the Roby try was embarrassing. Also Grace's second try, he simply missed him first time - wound up on the vacant wing and if he'd stayed there, Grace wouldn't have scored but instead, he wandered back towards the middle, tripped over a Wigan player and put him out of the play as well.
His attacking skills look OK so put him in the centres. It wouldn't be fair on Hankinson who had a reasonable match today but it might give us some cover at full-back with Escare - who isn't perfect.
Shorrocks (I hope he's OK - it looked awful and a straight red should have been given) isn't really good enough to be in the halves.
I'd simply write off the season - target some matches to win and plan ahead - preferably with a new coach.

I’ll admit I’m not happy but try not to spout absolute wham.
The stuff on Hardaker is absolute idiocy.
“Let’s get Sam back” it’s obviously that easy.

The issue is if they are going to replace Lam next year they are going to have to get rid of him now.
If a new coach is going to come in they could do with seeing exactly what and who need sorting.

[old hooker]

Come on IL the time has come to cut your losses and admit you got it wrong with lam and sack him today we have 3 wins from 11 games the max number of points this season for us is 30 if we win the next 11 game which by the way we are playing we will be lucky to get 2 points .with lam in charge we have gone backwards not forward’s .he will probably have flower playing the wing on Monday.please put us out of our misery and sack him he’s had enough time

Its lenegan that needs to move on.

So we can end up like widnes? Or salford? IL goes and we will be pennyless as well as rudderless.

NO ONE is lining up to buy Wigan.

Are you related to IL by any chance,do think that that if he left we would go to the wall? Wigan were a powerful club far before he came along..As for for being rudderless,where are we now.IL must love people like you,keeping his bank balance up whilst the club are on a downward spiral.Wake up and smell the coffee,we are in the shit and it is no ones fault but Lenagans.

[Firestarter]

I'm afraid I agree. It looks as if we don't practice the basics during the week and consequently we come up short against really straightforward teams, let alone good ones.
We have too many players who really aren't good enough - they might get carried when we are strong elsewhere but when we struggle, it shows.
Apart from breaking the bank to persuade Sam to come back, we need to get Hardaker away from full-back. He doesn't like the high ball under challenge and seems to be weak - the Roby try was embarrassing. Also Grace's second try, he simply missed him first time - wound up on the vacant wing and if he'd stayed there, Grace wouldn't have scored but instead, he wandered back towards the middle, tripped over a Wigan player and put him out of the play as well.
His attacking skills look OK so put him in the centres. It wouldn't be fair on Hankinson who had a reasonable match today but it might give us some cover at full-back with Escare - who isn't perfect.
Shorrocks (I hope he's OK - it looked awful and a straight red should have been given) isn't really good enough to be in the halves.
I'd simply write off the season - target some matches to win and plan ahead - preferably with a new coach.

i agree with most of what u say but it was hankinsons fault for the grace try......... he was nowhere to be seen

[The Yonner]

Did alright at salford didnt he... left them successful and rich.

I'd be happy with him

I wouldn't!

Koukash is on record pushing his vision for big city franchises, namely Liverpool in the first instance.

Taken to its logical conclusion Super League will consist of two franchises from north america, two from Europe, two from wales and six city regions from england. Wigan and St Helens will disappear, having been absorbed into the Manchester and Liverpool franchises respectively.

He said something like we need to adopt this model to be taken seriously as a national sport, otherwise it just looks like games between small towns.

Sorry Mr Koukash but games between clubs representing towns in the north of england is the main attraction for most rugby league fans who have been brought up with the game!

This man is dangerous. Ian Lenagan should have no truck.