I also remember somebody posting our form without Lockers (When he played more games and minutes and had greater influence) and Tomkins and it was not very good.Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:15 pmHarsh on Lam take bateman, tomkins and sutton off wane and reduce lockers to a bench player and see how he does.fozzieskem wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 1:33 pmThink you’re right,there isn’t a team of world beaters hiding in there but all it does for me is showed how Wane got the best out of this mediocre bunch,whereas Lam frankly looks lost as to what to do
in 2017 for example in the regular 23 rounds we only won 10 games, weve won 6 now so lam only needs another 4 wins to match wanes achievement that year
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Who did we replace him with?fozzieskem wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:23 pmHave to agree with you Josie,losing Bitcon was a huge blow and perhaps wasn’t going to be felt till they started playing againjosie andrews wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:33 am I also think the back room fitness staff are lacking the the same expertise as Mark Bitcom had & are contributing to the lack of “fitness” & “energy” from the players! IMO of course!
Whilst not having any knowledge on the answer, I am guessing some part timer who is from Wigan and has been involved with the club got the promotion.
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was it not Paul Johnson? or have i made that upnathan_rugby wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:40 pmWho did we replace him with?fozzieskem wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:23 pmHave to agree with you Josie,losing Bitcon was a huge blow and perhaps wasn’t going to be felt till they started playing againjosie andrews wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:33 am I also think the back room fitness staff are lacking the the same expertise as Mark Bitcom had & are contributing to the lack of “fitness” & “energy” from the players! IMO of course!
Whilst not having any knowledge on the answer, I am guessing some part timer who is from Wigan and has been involved with the club got the promotion.
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Yes Paul Johnson, no disrespect to him BTW but Bitcon was the real deal!Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:55 pmwas it not Paul Johnson? or have i made that upnathan_rugby wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:40 pmWho did we replace him with?fozzieskem wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:23 pm
Have to agree with you Josie,losing Bitcon was a huge blow and perhaps wasn’t going to be felt till they started playing again
Whilst not having any knowledge on the answer, I am guessing some part timer who is from Wigan and has been involved with the club got the promotion.
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I agree Josie and here this "model" of replacement is the same one that echo's around the club at the moment. Nothing against Paul but the facts speak for themselvesjosie andrews wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:59 pmYes Paul Johnson, no disrespect to him BTW but Bitcon was the real deal!Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:55 pmwas it not Paul Johnson? or have i made that upnathan_rugby wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:40 pm
Who did we replace him with?
Whilst not having any knowledge on the answer, I am guessing some part timer who is from Wigan and has been involved with the club got the promotion.
Paul Johnson roles before his current role:
Head of Strength & Conditioning for the Under 19s whilst studying at UCLAN.
Mark Bitcon Before Wigan:
Head of Sports Science
Gloucester Rugby
2008 – 2010 2 years
Head of Elite Fitness/National Team Fitness Coach
Scottish Rugby Union
2005 – 2008 3 years
Head Athletic Performance Co-ordinator
Glasgow Warriors
2004 – 2006 2 years
Wasps Rugby
Senior Strength & Conditioning Coach
2002 – 2003 1 year
Wasps Rugby
Head of Academy Sports Science
2001 – 2002 1 year
Academy Sports Science Consultant
Bolton Wanderers Football Club
November 2000 – May 2001 7 months
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It’s chalk and cheese isn’t it when you compare them
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Not replacing Bitcon with someone of a similar level shows either complete lack of judgment or in my view more likely, is part of a cost cutting exercise.
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Difficult to know where to start - 2 teams looking like championship standard. Woeful attack a complete lack of basic running and passing rugby skills. Just one man drives throughout. Can't remember any moves involving dummy runners. On coaching front little or no structure. Very depressing times -even in previous bad times- always had the feeling that things would come good. The Wigan way has all but disappeared.