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Head coach Powell confirmed that the player had been offered a new deal, as Mitch Clark himself told the Pontefract & Castleford Express last week.

Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 2:23 pm

moto748 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 1:46 pm

ancientnloyal wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 12:42 pm I stopped reading after “out of contract with Castleford this year”

Ffs

Cas are a better side than Wigan right now all across the park. Almost any of their players (with one or two exceptions), parachuted into the current Wigan side, would improve it.

You may resent that, but it's where we are.

And how are we going to change that by taking their cast offs? if you accept they have a better team then taking players they deem not good enough is hardly going to change that is it? put it this way do you think Cas fans would rather us take Clark or Watts?

Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 12:51 pm

Blackpool_Pie wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 12:18 pm

adiddy wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 10:39 am Mitch Clarke might be seen as a cheap signing but he's also a beast of a forward who runs the ball in like a prop forward should. A forward like we haven't got at the moment.

I'm happy with this potential signing as he's effective and won't cost a lot.


Matt

I agree with this.

I've seen him a few times and hes cut from the same cloth as Bullock who was also considered cheap.
Also, check out cas fans reactions to this news. They aren't happy one bit.

Welcome to the middle of the pack mentality

I get that fans want to remain positive but the two posts above just sum up where Wigan are now.

On Bullock i feel we are getting the Sam Powell syndrome here, because he's better than most people thought he'd be he's being mistaken for very good which im sorry he isnt. He is ok, thats it, hes a filler prop a work horse you have in your team in the acceptance that you cant have superstars across the board. He isnt a pack leader nor does he bring anything but hard work. Im not trying to put him down as he is doing a good job for us but lets not use him as the yard stick for good props.

He is basically the same as a mossop or crosby - two props deemed not good enough for Wigan a few years ago - just because he came from the championship it skews expectation.

Again im not trying to sound negative but fans seem to accept that this is the Wigan standard of player, its just like when we were signing all the dross we signed years ago like Wilkes, Botham, James, Withers, Mcavoy, Millard etc - yeah some of them did better than expected but dont confuse performing slightly over a low expectation to performing
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Crikey sorry for having an opinion on a player rated by Cas fans, who is only 26 and runs the ball in harder and more often than any of our forwards. I've only supported Wigan for 40 years and seen us in situations a damn site worse than we are now. Some supporters need to get a bit of perspective. But what do I know........I've only got a middle of the pack mentality.


Matt

wall_of_voodoo wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:05 pm Not a potential signing I dislike (mind you I was happy when we poached Tautai from Wakey) however https://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpr ... 1-9754562

Head coach Powell confirmed that the player had been offered a new deal, as Mitch Clark himself told the Pontefract & Castleford Express last week.

We could be simply being used as a bargaining tool for more money

Money needs spending on a quality spine. The rest are fillers but with a poor 6 -7 - 9- and 13 we achieve nothing with world beating props (if they even exist)

moto748 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 6:04 pm

Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 2:23 pm

moto748 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 1:46 pm

Cas are a better side than Wigan right now all across the park. Almost any of their players (with one or two exceptions), parachuted into the current Wigan side, would improve it.

You may resent that, but it's where we are.

And how are we going to change that by taking their cast offs? if you accept they have a better team then taking players they deem not good enough is hardly going to change that is it? put it this way do you think Cas fans would rather us take Clark or Watts?

Well, you imply that Cas are getting rid of him because he's not good enough. Is that the case, or is it cap space that's driving their move? Watts is a decent player, but also a bit of a penalty machine; I wouldn't say it was clear that he would be the better choice. And, as I say, ATEOTD, either would improve us.

ian.birchall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:52 am I was surprised to see on the Superleague Show that Watts on more than 1200 yards was the 3rd greatest meter gainer in Superleague after two stains backs, yes he gives penalties away but he also adds grunt and aggression. I posted we could have done with him when Hull offloaded him to Cas last season, I still think that..

EagleEyePie wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 6:55 pm Can't say I'm surprised that people are complaining about this. It's par for the course these days that everything has to be met with talk of how terrible things are at the home of the reigning Champions.

Has anyone looked at the off contract list recently? There's barely any talent to be found in there, particularly in the front row, but Mitch Clark does seem like a decent player and Cas fans seem to rate him very highly, which is promising because they have some bloody good forwards in their side.

No, he isn't a Liam Watts, Chris Hill, Luke Thompson etc, although there was a time when the likes of Watts and Hill weren't at the level they are now. Good players don't just suddenly exist so sometimes you've got to be smart and work out which ones are just starting to reach their peak and could become top signings.

Most top class forwards are under contract. The club doesn't seem to be in the position to pay out transfer fees. That leaves us in the same position as a lot of other clubs in fighting to find the best that's out there. Clark could well fit that category.

I agree with Exiled Wiganer, it's hard to get a sense of how good the recruitment will be until it's all done. What we're lacking at the moment is a top quality prop and depth in the front and back row. If the club just signs one big name forward they haven't solved the lack of depth. The club should be looking at several different players and Clark's name is hopefully just one of several targets.

Besides, for those wanting us to sign players from the NRL - just look how Frank-Paul Nu'uausala turned out. Or Roy Asotasi. Or Keith Galloway. Ashton Sims. Anthony Laffranchi. Luke Douglas. Those were not top class Super League props by any stretch of the imagination.

I'd say the best Super League props tend to be the home grown ones, with a few exceptions.