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AndyNick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:41 pm Greenwood hasn't looked the same player since coming back from his head knock. Its almost as if he's tentative going into contact. A bit like Lee Mossop was after his umpteenth shoulder reconstruction. I'm wondering if wearing a scrum cap to play might be something worth trying for him.

Scrum caps give you a false sense of protection, when in fact they do nothing at all apparently!

bertina wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:14 pm

ian.birchall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:05 pm Greenwood turning out to be a poor investment.

I would play him all day, every day before Clubb.

Me too!

But he needs to start a game, he can’t seem to pick up the tempo if he comes on off the bench.IMO

Just play the fit lads....... its always payed off before....... unless your something extra special like gregory snd hanley were

So it looks as though it will be the same team as last week, unless Sarge is fit!

There is something wrong with Greenwood though what I’m not sure, I agree with Josie he looks better starting a game but even then he’s not anywhere near the form he’s capable of

I don't think there is anything "wrong" with Greenwood apart from the fact that Lammy tried to play him on Farrell's side at the beginning of the season then he took some bad head injuries then he got dropped for not being as brilliant as Tony Clubb obviously is

Lam's deficiencies in team selections and extraordinary loyalty to certain players will either finish this season on Friday night or end up with us retaining the trophy.

Round peg to square hole mentality as a coach. Appears to not be able to craft tactics/game plan around the players he has available but wants them to play his way or get dropped. For those chomping at the bit ready to explode in frothy fervor about finishing second let me explain - If we use TL as an example for our kicking game, rather than just admit TL kicking isn't very good and adjust to that fact, Lam persists with TL being one of our main tactical kickers - hence one of the reasons why we struggle to maintain pressure on opposition sides on the last tackle

josie andrews wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:49 pm

AndyNick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:41 pm Greenwood hasn't looked the same player since coming back from his head knock. Its almost as if he's tentative going into contact. A bit like Lee Mossop was after his umpteenth shoulder reconstruction. I'm wondering if wearing a scrum cap to play might be something worth trying for him.

Scrum caps give you a false sense of protection, when in fact they do nothing at all apparently!

Don't knock them until you've tried them!!!

Obviously you will still receive injuries to the face but the head injuries we have and do see (mainly concussion) are reduced. So are you saying that in your opinion those and those used in other sports like boxing do nothing? Against all the medical evidence to the contrary ?

I think certain players need to be a little more mature about personal safety and less worrying about how they look. What next? Mouth guards give false sense of protection to teeth?

Greenwood scored a great try last time out did he not when Faz was banned?

I thought when Faz was banned we’d struggle but I’d forgotten about Greenwood and that he might be fit to play and I thought he had a good game which is the last thing that can be said of Isa and Lockers last week.

He’s also got Byrne and Smithies in before him. Good young players but still inexperienced and Navarete? What on Earth is he still in the side for?

Very strange decision this one for me.

wall_of_voodoo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:29 pm

josie andrews wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:49 pm

AndyNick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:41 pm Greenwood hasn't looked the same player since coming back from his head knock. Its almost as if he's tentative going into contact. A bit like Lee Mossop was after his umpteenth shoulder reconstruction. I'm wondering if wearing a scrum cap to play might be something worth trying for him.

Scrum caps give you a false sense of protection, when in fact they do nothing at all apparently!

Don't knock them until you've tried them!!!

Obviously you will still receive injuries to the face but the head injuries we have and do see (mainly concussion) are reduced. So are you saying that in your opinion those and those used in other sports like boxing do nothing? Against all the medical evidence to the contrary ?

I think certain players need to be a little more mature about personal safety and less worrying about how they look. What next? Mouth guards give false sense of protection to teeth?

I’m not saying I’m an expert! Nor is it my opinion!

I’m just repeating what Greenwood said to me when I asked him if he would consider wearing a scrum cap to reduce the chance of getting concussion. He said that the specialist had told him that.

josie andrews wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:24 pm

wall_of_voodoo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:29 pm

josie andrews wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:49 pm

Scrum caps give you a false sense of protection, when in fact they do nothing at all apparently!

Don't knock them until you've tried them!!!

Obviously you will still receive injuries to the face but the head injuries we have and do see (mainly concussion) are reduced. So are you saying that in your opinion those and those used in other sports like boxing do nothing? Against all the medical evidence to the contrary ?

I think certain players need to be a little more mature about personal safety and less worrying about how they look. What next? Mouth guards give false sense of protection to teeth?

I’m not saying I’m an expert! Nor is it my opinion!

I’m just repeating what Greenwood said to me when I asked him if he would consider wearing a scrum cap to reduce the chance of getting concussion. He said that the specialist had told him that.

Well Joe Greenwood was not being honest with what he told you then

There is not a specialist on the planet that would risk the compo claims and ruination of their reputation and careers by giving "advice" out like that about what essentially is safety equipment. So if Greenwood has a bad head knock and is seriously hurt next time, he or his family wouldn't pursue a claim against this person for bad advice? - ridiculous