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Re: Actual squad v Toronto

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:17 pm
by medlocke
Enjoyed the game, I'm currently sat in a travelodge in Dorset after attending a family funeral, Was a crap journey down and missed all connection's with a an hour wait in Wolverhampton thanks to the first train from Millom being 30 mins late.

French is an amazing player, Deffo a player that IL needs to tie down to a long contract, The last player that got me as excited with ball in hand was Henry Paul

Re: Actual squad v Toronto

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:55 pm
by nathan_rugby
medlocke wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:17 pm Enjoyed the game, I'm currently sat in a travelodge in Dorset after attending a family funeral, Was a crap journey down and missed all connection's with a an hour wait in Wolverhampton thanks to the first train from Millom being 30 mins late.

French is an amazing player, Deffo a player that IL needs to tie down to a long contract, The last player that got me as excited with ball in hand was Henry Paul
Amos Roberts didn’t ?

Re: Actual squad v Toronto

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:59 pm
by morley pie eater
DaveO wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:09 pm
morley pie eater wrote:
DaveO wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:34 pm

No one said “drop Powell” as far as I am aware and I didn’t think he’d been dropped but not cleared to play anyway.

Personally I don’t think he’s good enough (along with Isa) but I realise he will be an automatic pick when fit and given Tommy is not the player he once was it’s actually making the best of a bad job when he does play. Tommy needs to retire and we need a better 9 than Powell but we are where we are.

In any case we have yet to see who the final 17 is. I’d be surprised if all three of Bullock, Clarke and Greenwood are picked but even if they are are you opposed to this?

I mean do you think it’s right to pick Clubb + juniors again?

If he does pick all three and they are no better than the kids at least we will know but we aren’t going to find out with senior players including a new signing sat in the stands.
Dave, I don't think anything I wrote suggests that I'm opposed to anybody playing?

I have my own favourites but, in general, I tend to work on the assumption that the coach and players know a little bit more than me about form, fitness, attitude and who best fits the game plan. I accept that they don't always get it right, but, not being a qualified or experienced coach, I'd would make more of a mess of it than them. So, just as I wouldn't appreciate someone telling me how to do my job....

My post was kind of saying that without Sam P and possibly including the players who many have been rooting for, it will be a chance to see who's right. Then again, Toronto have 0/2 and no SBW, so our reserves might be in with a chance?
The question was what are the alternatives to Clubb + four junior props?

It didn’t work at Cas nor v Warrington so if he did pick all the experienced players and they flop it doesn’t prove who is right, it shows us we have not got the squad and coach we thought we had because neither option is good enough.

And please, not this “the coach knows best” tack. It’s a logical fallacy and no basis for a discussion. You either have an opinion on his selections and tactics etc or you don’t and if you say “the coach knows best” that does not address the question. Saying in effect “Just because he’s the coach” is a deflection to authority.
Straw man again, Dave: you know I didn't say "the coach knows best", just as I hadn't said "drop Powell" in the first place.
I tend to work on the assumption that the coach and players know a little bit more than me about form, fitness, attitude and who best fits the game plan.
You'd create an argument in an empty room! Some of us are happy to support the team without having to play Team Manager, it's a different mindset and one you clearly don't understand, which is fair enough. But it doesn't give you licence to twist everything I say so you can win a non-existent argument.