Forward Play / Speed

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Forward Play / Speed

Post by nathan_rugby » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:19 am

Watching the Canberra and Roosters game and I just don't understand why Lam / Wigan insist on our forwards catching the ball stood still, 5-10m the play of the ball. It is so ineffective.

Watching their forwards they hit the ball at speed, always on the gain line. It is so simple and so effective.

I just cannot understand why we don't try it a bit more?
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Re: Forward Play / Speed

Post by Firestarter » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:21 am

nathan_rugby wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:19 am
Watching the Canberra and Roosters game and I just don't understand why Lam / Wigan insist on our forwards catching the ball stood still, 5-10m the play of the ball. It is so ineffective.

Watching their forwards they hit the ball at speed, always on the gain line. It is so simple and so effective.

I just cannot understand why we don't try it a bit more?
i agree and most of them step to avoid first contact and gain extra yards..... ben flower used to be very good at doing that
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Re: Forward Play / Speed

Post by nathan_rugby » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:37 am

Firestarter wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:21 am
nathan_rugby wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:19 am
Watching the Canberra and Roosters game and I just don't understand why Lam / Wigan insist on our forwards catching the ball stood still, 5-10m the play of the ball. It is so ineffective.

Watching their forwards they hit the ball at speed, always on the gain line. It is so simple and so effective.

I just cannot understand why we don't try it a bit more?
i agree and most of them step to avoid first contact and gain extra yards..... ben flower used to be very good at doing that
He did yes, I agree.

It is so simple:

- Hit the ball at speed
- Hit the ball on the gain line
- Hooker to step out slightly to draw the first marker
- Use footwork to hit the gap rather than directly into a player
- Run in pairs as it holds off defenders as they anticipate the tip on

The same also applies when shipping it wide with 2-3 passes. You need optional runners, deep lines, not catching stood still.
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Re: Forward Play / Speed

Post by fozzieskem » Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:24 am

Wigan have t got the players with the sort of skill involved it’s that simple.

The Roosters Canberra game is on a different level and then some to any team in the “super league”

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Re: Forward Play / Speed

Post by Mike » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:28 pm

You've got to build momentum with the first couple of carries in a set first. The winger are crucial these days for that. I think we're missing marshall an awful lot. If the two wingers make positive yards and generate a quick play the ball then the forwards have a lot easier Job on tackle 3 and 4.

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Re: Forward Play / Speed

Post by DaveO » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:01 pm

nathan_rugby wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:37 am


It is so simple:

- Hit the ball at speed
- Hit the ball on the gain line
- Hooker to step out slightly to draw the first marker
- Use footwork to hit the gap rather than directly into a player
- Run in pairs as it holds off defenders as they anticipate the tip on

The same also applies when shipping it wide with 2-3 passes. You need optional runners, deep lines, not catching stood still.
It is simple but it does also need coaching and a bit of teamwork to organise even this. The team looks like strangers at times and so we end up with one man RL.

I think fitness may also be an issue. It's much easier to let someone else do it than put the effort in to be in position as one of the runners.

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Re: Forward Play / Speed

Post by Mike » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:40 am

I think we're likely the fittest team in the league. The way we play demands it.

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Re: Forward Play / Speed

Post by Charriots Offiah » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:42 am

Mike wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:40 am
I think we're likely the fittest team in the league. The way we play demands it.
I disagree, Salford are the fittest team in the league.

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Re: Forward Play / Speed

Post by Charriots Offiah » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:45 am

Rugby League is not rocket science. Forwards should gain yards and get good field position, then the backs should create the plays to make the tries. If we have to keep shifting the ball wide to gain territory then we will have to wait a long time to lift a trophy.

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Re: Forward Play / Speed

Post by jao711 » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:57 am

Wigan’s fitness in doubt.Ask the Warrington players.

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