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nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:11 pm
Super league commentary and punditry is absolutely dire and amateur. Watch the NRL and watch premier league football and you’ll realise.

Nezza Faz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:46 pm I'd say BBC have considerably improved coverage this year, their presentation of the Challenge Cup was better than Sky, with Mark Chapman (Chappers) fronting it with a degree of knowledge, professionalism and enthusiasm. They also had good studio guests (John Wilkin has found his true vocation !), with expert comments also from the likes of Brian Noble and Jamie Peacock. At least they talk sense and don't talk the game down like the people on Sky - Bill Arthur (thanks 'Charriots') is the worst commentator of the lot, he needs to go on a rules course with the referees and he's as dull as ditch water to listen to. The least said about B. Mc and T. O'c the better, always trying to get the last word in and outdo one another.
And for each round of the CC that I watched, they also did a studio review after the game, for 30 minutes or so, talking about other aspects of the game in general. I've even got used to Tanya Arnold holding down the BBC highlights package, something Sky have stopped showing, despite them having the SL contract.
There's also importantly, much less bias being shown by them, a neutral stance is much fairer for a national audience, Sky the complete opposite.

Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:42 am

Nezza Faz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:46 pm I'd say BBC have considerably improved coverage this year, their presentation of the Challenge Cup was better than Sky, with Mark Chapman (Chappers) fronting it with a degree of knowledge, professionalism and enthusiasm. They also had good studio guests (John Wilkin has found his true vocation !), with expert comments also from the likes of Brian Noble and Jamie Peacock. At least they talk sense and don't talk the game down like the people on Sky - Bill Arthur (thanks 'Charriots') is the worst commentator of the lot, he needs to go on a rules course with the referees and he's as dull as ditch water to listen to. The least said about B. Mc and T. O'c the better, always trying to get the last word in and outdo one another.
And for each round of the CC that I watched, they also did a studio review after the game, for 30 minutes or so, talking about other aspects of the game in general. I've even got used to Tanya Arnold holding down the BBC highlights package, something Sky have stopped showing, despite them having the SL contract.
There's also importantly, much less bias being shown by them, a neutral stance is much fairer for a national audience, Sky the complete opposite.

Agree re: Wilkin excellent behind the mic really insightful and incredible well spoken

I think skys issue is mainly on the Game commentary

I think Carney is pretty good even though he is very anti-wigan, Clarke is useless tends to try and tie in absolutley pointless information and make it somehow relevant like "you know 20 years ago on this pitch a game of cricket was played and on that day one of the players scored 100 runs, he had the same name as one of the players today and i wonder if that has any meaning" - no, no it doesnt Phil

Wells is really good i think hes really insightful

The commentary team though is really bad - Barry and Terry just come across as two blokes trying to out northern eachother and it to be honest makes them sound thick. Bill Aurther is ok but his tone irritates me and then theres the other one i cant remember his name but he talks like hes a mouth full of Jam all the time