In a nutshell.

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Caboosegg
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Shaun1967 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:15 pm
Caboosegg wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:08 pm I expected this, I'm surprised others didn't everyone has been hit by the pandemic and until fans are fully allowed back and the club can see what it's actual income is why would they do anything else.

I'd take this rather than in 3 years the club go bust because the can't afford to pay silly contracts.
I fully get that, but then why say you are going to spend big the year after next when you don't know what state your finances will be in then?
At the moment we can only have 6000 fans in the stadium and looks like a third wave is on route, I imagine next year will be limited again on crowds
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AndyNick wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:23 pm I feel like we're in the situation Stains were a few years ago when Cunningham was in charge. We desperately need an outside coach with no previous connection to the club come in. Lockers was without a doubt one of the greatest servants the club has ever had but it would be a huge error to give him the coaching job. Similar if Wane comes back. Holbrook came in at Saints and was not afraid to get rid of fan favourites who simply weren't good enough anymore (Wilkin being an example)

Right now all the decisions are being made by people who have historical connections to the club. Whilst its important that there is at least a presence at the top and the traditional values are maintained, to have someone in there who has no loyalty to anyone and isn't afraid to make decisions would be a breath of fresh air right now.
Totally agree on one condition.... who ever came in, had the money and the backing of the owners to do the playing side his way, with the players he wants and not the players the club want him to sign.
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I'm currently sat in a Brewers Fayre in Catterick eating haddock and chips, have just read this complete shite and spat us
mushy peas all over the shop, our Sue ain't happy, happy days are not here again
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medlocke wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:33 pm I'm currently sat in a Brewers Fayre in Catterick eating haddock and chips, have just read this complete shite and spat us
mushy peas all over the shop, our Sue ain't happy, happy days are not here again
Meds your an animal.

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medlocke wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:33 pm I'm currently sat in a Brewers Fayre in Catterick eating haddock and chips, have just read this complete shite and spat us
mushy peas all over the shop, our Sue ain't happy, happy days are not here again
What part of it do you think is shite? If Its something I have said I will then tell you why its not.
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Dan2266 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:35 pm The plan for 2022 does not bode well.

Wigan have the money associated with them, but they will not spend it until they have a clear plan to recoup it. They do not want to continue to run at a loss and for that reason we will see a vastly reduced percentage of our cap taken up next season. (Can half understand that from a business point of view)

As it currently stands, the plan is to invest heavily in 2023/2024. ("Currently Stands")

so the next couple of months should consist of underwhelming signings on 2/3 year deals.

Current players on the radar who should sign/announced in the coming weeks are:

Bibby (2 years)
Powell (2 years)
Thornley (2 years)
Mason (2 years)

Isa and Manfredi are in talks, and there is interest in Sezer, Richardson, the winger from london and a Second Row from the Championship.

I would be surprised if we needed to utilise the Marquee player rule next year. Put it that way.

There is still talk of Thompson, Tomkins, Davies and even Greg Eden & Oli Holmes. But I can not see it.

EDIT: Fuck it, don't listen to any talk of Thompson, Tomkins, Davies or Holmes. Thompson turned us down. Tomkins and Davies resigned for Catalan, Davies turned us down. Holmes turned us down and has signed for Wire.

Thornley signed already, Mason really really really close.

Ill stop now :lol:

I can not say more than that and I probably wont post any information for a while as I can not let slip some of the things that I know.

I would be shocked if anything drastically changed.
Wire just confirmed Holmes.
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AndyNick wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:23 pm I feel like we're in the situation Stains were a few years ago when Cunningham was in charge. We desperately need an outside coach with no previous connection to the club come in. Lockers was without a doubt one of the greatest servants the club has ever had but it would be a huge error to give him the coaching job. Similar if Wane comes back. Holbrook came in at Saints and was not afraid to get rid of fan favourites who simply weren't good enough anymore (Wilkin being an example)

Right now all the decisions are being made by people who have historical connections to the club. Whilst its important that there is at least a presence at the top and the traditional values are maintained, to have someone in there who has no loyalty to anyone and isn't afraid to make decisions would be a breath of fresh air right now.
Do you mean the club badge :lol: We could rename ourselves, Wigan Wokes :P
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Caboosegg wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:25 pm
Shaun1967 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:15 pm
Caboosegg wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:08 pm I expected this, I'm surprised others didn't everyone has been hit by the pandemic and until fans are fully allowed back and the club can see what it's actual income is why would they do anything else.

I'd take this rather than in 3 years the club go bust because the can't afford to pay silly contracts.
I fully get that, but then why say you are going to spend big the year after next when you don't know what state your finances will be in then?
At the moment we can only have 6000 fans in the stadium and looks like a third wave is on route, I imagine next year will be limited again on crowds
That will be a regular crowd if they don't invest in the squad.

Third wave! They are making it up to suit their narrative.
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Dan2266 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:50 pm
Dan2266 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:35 pm The plan for 2022 does not bode well.

Wigan have the money associated with them, but they will not spend it until they have a clear plan to recoup it. They do not want to continue to run at a loss and for that reason we will see a vastly reduced percentage of our cap taken up next season. (Can half understand that from a business point of view)

As it currently stands, the plan is to invest heavily in 2023/2024. ("Currently Stands")

so the next couple of months should consist of underwhelming signings on 2/3 year deals.

Current players on the radar who should sign/announced in the coming weeks are:

Bibby (2 years)
Powell (2 years)
Thornley (2 years)
Mason (2 years)

Isa and Manfredi are in talks, and there is interest in Sezer, Richardson, the winger from london and a Second Row from the Championship.

I would be surprised if we needed to utilise the Marquee player rule next year. Put it that way.

There is still talk of Thompson, Tomkins, Davies and even Greg Eden & Oli Holmes. But I can not see it.

EDIT: F*** it, don't listen to any talk of Thompson, Tomkins, Davies or Holmes. Thompson turned us down. Tomkins and Davies resigned for Catalan, Davies turned us down. Holmes turned us down and has signed for Wire.

Thornley signed already, Mason really really really close.

Ill stop now :lol:

I can not say more than that and I probably wont post any information for a while as I can not let slip some of the things that I know.

I would be shocked if anything drastically changed.
Wire just confirmed Holmes.
I knew they would follow Powell. Sadly loyalty to your club is a thing of the past these days!
Anyone can support a team when it is winning, that takes no courage.
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
Dan2266
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Short career Josie, money talks. Wire is more attractive than Wigan anyway at the moment. We are like the Man Utd of Super League. Huge tradition and history, but heading in the wrong direction, Wire on the other hand are like City. big spenders to try and get the big trophy that alludes them.
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