Wigan v HKR game

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thegimble wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:45 pm Game was lost the moment Wanes name was mentioned as coming back. Lam is on a hiding to nothing.
how? when wane announced he was leaving we won the GF, Lam hasnt signed a new contract so the team plays garbage again, I didnt think Wane was coming back as coach
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Hastings played hooker, scrum half and full back. He wanted to do everything and thats where it all went wrong. We didnt have anybody linking into the line because our fullback was at every play the ball. Powell just stood behind him. It was a Catalan performance all over again and if we had played any top 4 side they would have scored 40 plus. Wakefield will batter us next week playing like that and we wont even score a point. HKR did not play well, we were abysmal.

Lam cant even pick a team, and his tactics are baffling. It was easier to play Hanley and keep everyone in their natural positions. Surely, Smithies is a better option than Partington?. If Leullai is not on the bench to cover Powell then there is no point him being on the team sheet. Bullock started then replaced never came back, Singleton does his second stint 10 minutes from the end. Whats the point?. Pearce Paul shows promise but not ready for first team.

Its going to be a long barren season and there are some hammerings around the corner. Wait till wire come with Williams in their ranks, its going to be a cricket score. Dont have any faith in Lam to be able to turn things round. We might not have the best squad but we should be putting on better performances that this.

Massive disappointment ,waited 15 months for that rubbish. Cant wait for Lam's comments
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pedro wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:34 pm
thegimble wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:45 pm Game was lost the moment Wanes name was mentioned as coming back. Lam is on a hiding to nothing.
how? when wane announced he was leaving we won the GF, Lam hasnt signed a new contract so the team plays garbage again, I didnt think Wane was coming back as coach
Lam knows he is not here next season. Problem is some players will drop standards they should not but last 2 games is very poor
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w.thomas wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:25 pm
Mike wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:38 pm Enough glimpses in the second half to show a run to the GF is possible.

Have you any of the top quality drugs left you’ve been taking for me please? Surely you are being sarcastic? We’ve lost against one of the worst teams in the league and haven’t produced more than 1 decent performance all season. We have a coach that plays players out of position and is clearly clueless when it comes to tactics. I feel sorry for everyone that had to attend that shower tonight without having alcohol available to dull the pain. The future looks even more bleak with the poor signings we are supposedly signing and brining back coaches that have had their time already. A very sad time to be a Wigan warriors fan
They're not that bad, they were in 6th place before tonight 😊
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Caboosegg wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:29 pm
Mike wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:09 pm Thought Hastings was excellent at full back actually. Might not be his best position, but he certainly does a good job as a ball playing type FB.
I sadly disagree he never challenged for the ball in the air, let's it bounce multiple times without attempting to go for it and seemed to only chime into the line at his preferred halfback spot.

I'm buy no means blaming him but he offered nothing at fullback.
I agree. Didn’t impress me at all.
Tommy needs to go.
Get young Smith on the ball more, it’s the only time we look like doing anything.
Gildart scored 2 tries but apart from that he was crap.
And if Powell gets any slower, either running or passing he will be bloody slow motion.
Perfectly obvious, we need 2 good big props and a nine.
Sick of repeating myself.
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We have totally no idea in attack or defence
Lam came out saying he was a attacking coach
Total rubbish
We ragged our first few games, luck has run out
IL sort it out
We need a decent coach
And Bateman is totally woeful
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thegimble wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:44 pm
pedro wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:34 pm
thegimble wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:45 pm Game was lost the moment Wanes name was mentioned as coming back. Lam is on a hiding to nothing.
how? when wane announced he was leaving we won the GF, Lam hasnt signed a new contract so the team plays garbage again, I didnt think Wane was coming back as coach
Lam knows he is not here next season. Problem is some players will drop standards they should not but last 2 games is very poor
but won it with wane when he said he wouldnt be here for the year after
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Hastings to fullback was a poor move. He's our biggest threat with ball in hand and he was just isolated at fullback. He's the sort of player who loves to carry the ball into contact and play very direct but he couldn't do that from the back. Too often he was going laterally and not really getting any joy. Meanwhile Smith and Leuluai were content to pass the ball about 5 metres before the line and weren't engaging the defence at all. They made it far too easy for Rovers to defend so it wasn't too surprising that they survived 7 repeat sets.

It seemed like Lam was too interested in getting Hastings, Leuluai and Smith into the same side and it backfired. Well we're at a point now where we really need to question why Leuluai is still in this side. I know he's captain and a strong defender but there's another pretty important aspect to the halfback role that he's just not fulfilling. Before today's game Smith had 1 try and 4 assists in 5 starts. Leuluai has 0 tries and 0 assists in 4 starts.

For most of the game we only had one player willing to actually take the line on before shifting the ball and that was Shorrocks. I thought he looked threatening but no one else was really capable of capitalising. Although it was Shorrocks going off that indirectly led to us getting back into the game because the introduction of Pearce-Paul actually provided us with an attacking threat. His offload down the left should have been taken by Gildart and would have given us a good scoring opportunity, but then his offload down the right did create a break and give us field position to score. Unlucky to make the error near his own line but he was a bigger threat that Bateman.

Really we're still in the situation where our young forwards aren't really getting enough support from the senior players. Bullock had a shocker. We actually looked our most dangerous later in the game when we had 5 back rowers on the field at the same time (Partington, Shorrocks, Farrell, Bateman and Pearce-Paul). Not entirely sure who was playing where but Rovers didn't seem to know either and we actually started causing problems.

Ultimately that wasn't too dissimilar to our previous performances this season. It went pretty much the same way in terms of the pattern of the game but we messed up too many chances.
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Lam: Disappointing

Adrian Lam reacts to Wigan’s defeat to Hull KR at the DW Stadium.

Lam: “We created a lot of opportunities in the second half there, but we kept on dropping the ball in
decisive moments. It was not good enough.”

FT | Wigan Warriors 8-18 Hull Kingston Rovers

Adrian Lam highlighted the number of missed opportunities to score as one of the key factors in Wigan’s 8-18 loss to Hull KR on Friday night.

Despite two tries from the returning Oliver Gildart, the Cherry and Whites were unable to grab two points at the DW Stadium.

Speaking to the media shortly after the full time whistle, the Warriors head coach gave his reaction to the result.

“It’s disappointing. It was frustrating watching the whole way through. We made too many mistakes and errors.

“There was effort there, no doubt about that, but with the amount of possession we had in their 20, we should have posted more points.”

Although Lam wasn’t pleased with Wigan’s performance, there was some praise for the opposition.

“You have to give credit to their defence, they were great, but we were held up four times and you have to make those count.”

Pointing to specifics in the defeat, Lam suggested the Warriors were too wasteful in key moments.

“We created a lot of opportunities in the second half there, but we kept on dropping the ball in decisive moments. It was not good enough.”

The game will be remembered for a wholesome positive, in that after 15 months away, a limited number of Wigan fans were able to attend the DW to cheer on their side.

On the return of fans: “I’m happy that they are back but I’m disappointed for them. We’ve missed them. There wasn’t much to cheer for tonight and I apologise for that, but it was nice for them to cheer the boys on and to have them back.”

Another positive was the return of Liam Marshall and Oliver Gildart, both making their first appearances of 2021 after recovering from long-term injuries. Gildart in particular made his mark, scoring two tries on the night.

On Gildart’s performance: “I’m glad to see him back. You can see him and Marshy [Liam Marshall] need some game time, there was a little bit of roughness there and loose execution. But it was just good to have them back out there.”

Lam also provided an update on Dom Manfredi, who despite being named in the 20-man squad earlier this week, was absent from the matchday squad.

“He was a late withdrawal. He’s got a small amount of fluid on the knee. He’s seeing a specialist tonight and will hopefully know soon what the outcome of that is, be it week to week or something more.”

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EagleEyePie wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:13 pm Hastings to fullback was a poor move. He's our biggest threat with ball in hand and he was just isolated at fullback. He's the sort of player who loves to carry the ball into contact and play very direct but he couldn't do that from the back. Too often he was going laterally and not really getting any joy. Meanwhile Smith and Leuluai were content to pass the ball about 5 metres before the line and weren't engaging the defence at all. They made it far too easy for Rovers to defend so it wasn't too surprising that they survived 7 repeat sets.

It seemed like Lam was too interested in getting Hastings, Leuluai and Smith into the same side and it backfired. Well we're at a point now where we really need to question why Leuluai is still in this side. I know he's captain and a strong defender but there's another pretty important aspect to the halfback role that he's just not fulfilling. Before today's game Smith had 1 try and 4 assists in 5 starts. Leuluai has 0 tries and 0 assists in 4 starts.

For most of the game we only had one player willing to actually take the line on before shifting the ball and that was Shorrocks. I thought he looked threatening but no one else was really capable of capitalising. Although it was Shorrocks going off that indirectly led to us getting back into the game because the introduction of Pearce-Paul actually provided us with an attacking threat. His offload down the left should have been taken by Gildart and would have given us a good scoring opportunity, but then his offload down the right did create a break and give us field position to score. Unlucky to make the error near his own line but he was a bigger threat that Bateman.

Really we're still in the situation where our young forwards aren't really getting enough support from the senior players. Bullock had a shocker. We actually looked our most dangerous later in the game when we had 5 back rowers on the field at the same time (Partington, Shorrocks, Farrell, Bateman and Pearce-Paul). Not entirely sure who was playing where but Rovers didn't seem to know either and we actually started causing problems.

Ultimately that wasn't too dissimilar to our previous performances this season. It went pretty much the same way in terms of the pattern of the game but we messed up too many chances.
No he didn’t. He was played for, at most, 20 minutes in one stint. That is utterly shocking management. Singleton managed a whole 25 minutes. Our senior props should be playing much longer minutes but our moron coach would rather play kids.
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