League position predictor

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morley pie eater wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:13 am Yes, Ian, we can only finish 3rd if we win all 3 and Wire lose all 3.

Each game we win, you can cross off the lowest percentage. Each game we lose, cross off the highest. At the end of the season, you'll have our final %.

You can also work out that if we win 1 of our remaining games, we'll finish in the top 6. This is because our lowest possible percentage with 1 win is 56.0 (that's if we lose the other 2), and neither Hull or Hull KR can make 56 or more even if they win all 3.
Wouldnt it be nice if we hit the playoffs as the form team? Wouldnt be the first time would it?
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Firestarter wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 am
morley pie eater wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:13 am Yes, Ian, we can only finish 3rd if we win all 3 and Wire lose all 3.

Each game we win, you can cross off the lowest percentage. Each game we lose, cross off the highest. At the end of the season, you'll have our final %.

You can also work out that if we win 1 of our remaining games, we'll finish in the top 6. This is because our lowest possible percentage with 1 win is 56.0 (that's if we lose the other 2), and neither Hull or Hull KR can make 56 or more even if they win all 3.
Wouldnt it be nice if we hit the playoffs as the form team? Wouldnt be the first time would it?
Love the positive approach!

And just suppose we won the GF from 4th. In 10, 20 or 50 years time, it would still say Wigan on the trophy - no mention of how we played in August.

And we'll have star men Isa and Powell back for the run-in.
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morley pie eater wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:13 pm
Firestarter wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 am
morley pie eater wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:13 am Yes, Ian, we can only finish 3rd if we win all 3 and Wire lose all 3.

Each game we win, you can cross off the lowest percentage. Each game we lose, cross off the highest. At the end of the season, you'll have our final %.

You can also work out that if we win 1 of our remaining games, we'll finish in the top 6. This is because our lowest possible percentage with 1 win is 56.0 (that's if we lose the other 2), and neither Hull or Hull KR can make 56 or more even if they win all 3.
Wouldnt it be nice if we hit the playoffs as the form team? Wouldnt be the first time would it?
Love the positive approach!

And just suppose we won the GF from 4th. In 10, 20 or 50 years time, it would still say Wigan on the trophy - no mention of how we played in August.

And we'll have star men Isa and Powell back for the run-in.
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morley pie eater wrote:
Firestarter wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 am
morley pie eater wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:13 am Yes, Ian, we can only finish 3rd if we win all 3 and Wire lose all 3.

Each game we win, you can cross off the lowest percentage. Each game we lose, cross off the highest. At the end of the season, you'll have our final %.

You can also work out that if we win 1 of our remaining games, we'll finish in the top 6. This is because our lowest possible percentage with 1 win is 56.0 (that's if we lose the other 2), and neither Hull or Hull KR can make 56 or more even if they win all 3.
Wouldnt it be nice if we hit the playoffs as the form team? Wouldnt be the first time would it?
Love the positive approach!

And just suppose we won the GF from 4th. In 10, 20 or 50 years time, it would still say Wigan on the trophy - no mention of how we played in August.

And we'll have star men Isa and Powell back for the run-in.
Well given some of our own fans will write off the achievements of the 80’s and 90’s as having been bought I’d not be so optimistic winning it this year wouldn’t be dismissed at least for the next 20 years.

How does the minimum 18 games to qualify affect things if at all? Are any teams above us going to be excluded due to not having played 18?

There is no doubt this season has been distorted by fixture cancellations but the cynic in me says if Les Cats, Saints, Wire or Leeds had not got the numbers they would change the rules anyway.
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DaveO wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:15 am
morley pie eater wrote:
Firestarter wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 am
Wouldnt it be nice if we hit the playoffs as the form team? Wouldnt be the first time would it?
Love the positive approach!

And just suppose we won the GF from 4th. In 10, 20 or 50 years time, it would still say Wigan on the trophy - no mention of how we played in August.

And we'll have star men Isa and Powell back for the run-in.
Well given some of our own fans will write off the achievements of the 80’s and 90’s as having been bought I’d not be so optimistic winning it this year wouldn’t be dismissed at least for the next 20 years.

How does the minimum 18 games to qualify affect things if at all? Are any teams above us going to be excluded due to not having played 18?

There is no doubt this season has been distorted by fixture cancellations but the cynic in me says if Les Cats, Saints, Wire or Leeds had not got the numbers they would change the rules anyway.
Let me Google that for you...

Everyone has played 18 except HKR who've played 17 at this point. So everyone's easily going to be qualified, we're going to be 4th, Warrington 3rd,just battles for the top and the bottom 2. If Leeds miss out, it will be a top 8 like last year.
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You have assumed that each team is only going to play 4 more matches. What if a team think they can make the playoffs by hastily rearranging some of their postponed matches to increase their win percentage?
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You say that like it's a bad thing. Fixtures should be fulfilled as far as possible.
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moto748 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:32 am You say that like it's a bad thing. Fixtures should be fulfilled as far as possible.
Couldn't agree more. I'd even go so far as to say that any side not fulfilling all of their fixtures, be docked points, especially the smellys.
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Here's the "table" updated after Magic results.

It's on the assumption that all play 2 more games, so the columns are final percentage with 0/1/2 wins. Any draws would give a different result!

CATS: 82.6 / 87.0 / 91.3
STS: 71.4 / 76.2 / 81.0
WAR: 64.3 / 69.0 / 73.8
WIG: 52.0 / 56.0 / 60.0
LDS: 50.0 / 54.2 / 58.3
CAS: 47.8 / 52.2 / 57.6
HULL: 40.5 / 45.2 / 50.0
HKR: 45.0 / 50.0 / 55.0
We are now guaranteed to finish above Hull, as they get to 50% if they win 2/2. We get 52% minimum.

To finish above Leeds, we have to win as many as they do. So if we beat Hull, Leeds have to win both of their matches to finish above us....including Saints away!
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morley pie eater wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:50 pm Here's the "table" updated after Magic results.

It's on the assumption that all play 2 more games, so the columns are final percentage with 0/1/2 wins. Any draws would give a different result!

CATS: 82.6 / 87.0 / 91.3
STS: 71.4 / 76.2 / 81.0
WAR: 64.3 / 69.0 / 73.8
WIG: 52.0 / 56.0 / 60.0
LDS: 50.0 / 54.2 / 58.3
CAS: 47.8 / 52.2 / 57.6
HULL: 40.5 / 45.2 / 50.0
HKR: 45.0 / 50.0 / 55.0
We are now guaranteed to finish above Hull, as they get to 50% if they win 2/2. We get 52% minimum.

To finish above Leeds, we have to win as many as they do. So if we beat Hull, Leeds have to win both of their matches to finish above us....including Saints away!
So we are assured of a top six spot it’s just a question of where we finish, a home game beckons.
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