Or that they where putting the money In to get him hoping it would replace Hastings and bring back some fans.fozzieskem wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:16 pmI suppose you can offer a deal in the hope it won’t be signed?nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:51 pm Just read the transcript, excellent read.
Surprised nobody brought French up. The club basically admitted he didn’t return fit and his injury was likely caused by being played too soon.
A lot of people on here were convinced him and Hastings would have a training programme in Aus and there wouldn’t be an issue…
Also, interesting the club talks about financial struggles and how it will limit signings but in the next sentence mentions offerings Williams the clubs largest ever deal?
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Seems to me it was clear almost from the start Williams didn’t want to come back,surely if he had wanted to come back a deal would have been done toot sweet,not drag on the way it did,as for Williams being fans back a fair wedge of them left while he was at Wigan last time so not sure how many would have come back to be brutally honestCaboosegg wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:39 pmOr that they where putting the money In to get him hoping it would replace Hastings and bring back some fans.fozzieskem wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:16 pmI suppose you can offer a deal in the hope it won’t be signed?nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:51 pm Just read the transcript, excellent read.
Surprised nobody brought French up. The club basically admitted he didn’t return fit and his injury was likely caused by being played too soon.
A lot of people on here were convinced him and Hastings would have a training programme in Aus and there wouldn’t be an issue…
Also, interesting the club talks about financial struggles and how it will limit signings but in the next sentence mentions offerings Williams the clubs largest ever deal?
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You can’t do that in case they do sign it. It’s not realistic the club treats signings like a game of poker trying to call a bluff.fozzieskem wrote:I suppose you can offer a deal in the hope it won’t be signed?nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:51 pm Just read the transcript, excellent read.
Surprised nobody brought French up. The club basically admitted he didn’t return fit and his injury was likely caused by being played too soon.
A lot of people on here were convinced him and Hastings would have a training programme in Aus and there wouldn’t be an issue…
Also, interesting the club talks about financial struggles and how it will limit signings but in the next sentence mentions offerings Williams the clubs largest ever deal?
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This would help explain why the club is going to be paying to the full cap of £2.1m we still end up with the squad having holes in it. We will have ONE specialist centre next year and that is Thornely!
Davo, think you have missed or forgotten we do have another centre on our books Chris Hankinson has another year left
Davo, think you have missed or forgotten we do have another centre on our books Chris Hankinson has another year left
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I am not convinced from the minutes of the fans forum the club see a future for him at Wigan. When his name came up it was as if he was an afterthought. In any case are Thornley and Hankinson what you expect as Wigan centres? I’d actually take Hank over Thornley anyway.jackthelad wrote:This would help explain why the club is going to be paying to the full cap of £2.1m we still end up with the squad having holes in it. We will have ONE specialist centre next year and that is Thornely!
Davo, think you have missed or forgotten we do have another centre on our books Chris Hankinson has another year left
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Why?DaveO wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:23 amYou can’t do that in case they do sign it. It’s not realistic the club treats signings like a game of poker trying to call a bluff.fozzieskem wrote:I suppose you can offer a deal in the hope it won’t be signed?nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:51 pm Just read the transcript, excellent read.
Surprised nobody brought French up. The club basically admitted he didn’t return fit and his injury was likely caused by being played too soon.
A lot of people on here were convinced him and Hastings would have a training programme in Aus and there wouldn’t be an issue…
Also, interesting the club talks about financial struggles and how it will limit signings but in the next sentence mentions offerings Williams the clubs largest ever deal?
They sign it and it’s an expense that can be found I due course but I’ll say again there was no sign that Williams was coming back,no sense that he was jumping on a plane and we here on a forum then you can damn well bet that the club knew it too.
Williams had already been the marquee here and had hardly set the world on fire had he so why come back?
Not saying the club didn’t offer a deal I’m sure they did,a bloody good one too but sometimes I’m just saying you can offer something with a degree of certainty it won’t be signed and I think this was the case here is all.
I suppose it’s just making a win out of a situation you’ve lost before you’ve got got going maybe?
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The club offering him the highest ever salary the club had ever offered and the club knew it wouldn’t get signed?fozzieskem wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:47 amWhy?
They sign it and it’s an expense that can be found I due course but I’ll say again there was no sign that Williams was coming back,no sense that he was jumping on a plane and we here on a forum then you can damn well bet that the club knew it too.
Williams had already been the marquee here and had hardly set the world on fire had he so why come back?
Not saying the club didn’t offer a deal I’m sure they did,a bloody good one too but sometimes I’m just saying you can offer something with a degree of certainty it won’t be signed and I think this was the case here is all.
I suppose it’s just making a win out of a situation you’ve lost before you’ve got got going maybe?
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What do you mean why?fozzieskem wrote:Why?
They sign it and it’s an expense that can be found I due course but I’ll say again there was no sign that Williams was coming back,no sense that he was jumping on a plane and we here on a forum then you can damn well bet that the club knew it too.
Williams had already been the marquee here and had hardly set the world on fire had he so why come back?
Not saying the club didn’t offer a deal I’m sure they did,a bloody good one too but sometimes I’m just saying you can offer something with a degree of certainty it won’t be signed and I think this was the case here is all.
I suppose it’s just making a win out of a situation you’ve lost before you’ve got got going maybe?
Let’s offer Williams £250k a year (or whatever) and hope he doesn’t bite? Really?
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I guess I e worded it wrong but my feeling is the club knew every early it was a no go with Williams so knowing the ire that was going to come their way they made a very hefty offer,one they probably knew he wasn’t going to sign.DaveO wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:33 amWhat do you mean why?fozzieskem wrote:Why?
They sign it and it’s an expense that can be found I due course but I’ll say again there was no sign that Williams was coming back,no sense that he was jumping on a plane and we here on a forum then you can damn well bet that the club knew it too.
Williams had already been the marquee here and had hardly set the world on fire had he so why come back?
Not saying the club didn’t offer a deal I’m sure they did,a bloody good one too but sometimes I’m just saying you can offer something with a degree of certainty it won’t be signed and I think this was the case here is all.
I suppose it’s just making a win out of a situation you’ve lost before you’ve got got going maybe?
Let’s offer Williams £250k a year (or whatever) and hope he doesn’t bite? Really?
The rumours around Williams going to Warrington led him to being made marquee last time round,that was a mistake then I said so at the time so to give him a him dinger of a deal to come back would have been a mistake I’m glad as well they didn’t hold him to agreement as well,he’s a fine player but he’s no Jackson Hastings.
Sport is about PR so Wigan had to make a move but the way I look at it agents don’t post on boards or forum or Facebook they speak to the clubs moneymen to get a deal done at first and I’ll say it again I think Wigan knew early on he wasn’t coming back but still felt duty bound to make an offer which they did.
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Wigan thought up until the very last Warrington offer he was coming back. our offer to George had been turned into a contract proposal not just a conversation about the terms. It had been through the legal side and everything. They wouldn't go to those lengths just for "PR".fozzieskem wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:50 amI guess I e worded it wrong but my feeling is the club knew every early it was a no go with Williams so knowing the ire that was going to come their way they made a very hefty offer,one they probably knew he wasn’t going to sign.DaveO wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:33 amWhat do you mean why?fozzieskem wrote:
Why?
They sign it and it’s an expense that can be found I due course but I’ll say again there was no sign that Williams was coming back,no sense that he was jumping on a plane and we here on a forum then you can damn well bet that the club knew it too.
Williams had already been the marquee here and had hardly set the world on fire had he so why come back?
Not saying the club didn’t offer a deal I’m sure they did,a bloody good one too but sometimes I’m just saying you can offer something with a degree of certainty it won’t be signed and I think this was the case here is all.
I suppose it’s just making a win out of a situation you’ve lost before you’ve got got going maybe?
Let’s offer Williams £250k a year (or whatever) and hope he doesn’t bite? Really?
The rumours around Williams going to Warrington led him to being made marquee last time round,that was a mistake then I said so at the time so to give him a him dinger of a deal to come back would have been a mistake I’m glad as well they didn’t hold him to agreement as well,he’s a fine player but he’s no Jackson Hastings.
Sport is about PR so Wigan had to make a move but the way I look at it agents don’t post on boards or forum or Facebook they speak to the clubs moneymen to get a deal done at first and I’ll say it again I think Wigan knew early on he wasn’t coming back but still felt duty bound to make an offer which they did.
George had been in talks for months about coming home to Wigan and had signalled his intent to do so.
Warrington swayed him with money like I consistently said, "barring a ridiculous offer from Wire he'll be back" That ridiculous offer came in, and all of a sudden he wanted a new challenge.
Wigan offered him the 2nd highest wage per year we have ever offered a player, but the length of the contract made it our biggest ever contract offer.
he is on roughly 60k per year more at Wire, If what Wigan believe is true.