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pedro
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rather have Gareth Gale, more prolific and is at least a right winger
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Mike wrote:
pedro wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:54 pm bevan french still isnt 26, hasnt played in the NRL in 2 years and played 8 times more games and scored 17x more tries than Miski in the NRL
Yeah, but by Dave's thinking he's shit because he was dropped by the NRL.
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pedro wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:54 pm
Mike wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:42 pm

Like French. He's crap.
bevan french still isnt 26, hasnt played in the NRL in 2 years and played 8 times more games and scored 17x more tries than Miski in the NRL
Yeah, but by Dave's thinking he's shit because he was dropped by the NRL.
I didn’t say he was shit. I just don’t think there is anything to suggest he’s a top player or that he’s SL standard.

Do you have any faith in our scouting that they have found a gem of a player no NRL club signed after he left Manly and no other SL club was interested in?

French was clearly up to playing in the NRL and I have seen videos of him scoring tries in the NRL as opposed to Miski scoring in the U.K. championship.

The bottom line is how does he compare to wingers we have had in the recent past like Burgess, Davis and Charnley? Anyone think he’s going to be as good as any of them?
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Our scouts are pathetic once every blue moon they may find a special player!
Anyone can support a team when it is winning, that takes no courage.
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
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josie andrews wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:15 am Our scouts are pathetic once every blue moon they may find a special player!
I know a scout and he told me the public tell them about good players and then they go look as well as going to matches they cant be at every match so many of them .
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josie andrews wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:15 am Our scouts are pathetic once every blue moon they may find a special player!
Ten academy championships in twelve years!!!

Once the players are "scouted" and signed it's up to the coaching team to develop them.

Who do you think we've missed out on?
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No straw damn us wrote:
josie andrews wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:15 am Our scouts are pathetic once every blue moon they may find a special player!
Ten academy championships in twelve years!!!

Once the players are "scouted" and signed it's up to the coaching team to develop them.

Who do you think we've missed out on?
Well it was John Monie who said you would do well if you got two first team standard players from your academy or equivalent.

The fact Wigan have won those ten championships yet have
produced just two decent centres in all of that time (Goulding and Gildart) suggests he wasn’t wrong.
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DaveO wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:47 am
No straw damn us wrote:
josie andrews wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:15 am Our scouts are pathetic once every blue moon they may find a special player!
Ten academy championships in twelve years!!!

Once the players are "scouted" and signed it's up to the coaching team to develop them.

Who do you think we've missed out on?
Well it was John Monie who said you would do well if you got two first team standard players from your academy or equivalent.

The fact Wigan have won those ten championships yet have
produced just two decent centres in all of that time (Goulding and Gildart) suggests he wasn’t wrong.
So we're only to be judged on producing centres?
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No straw damn us wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:02 pm
DaveO wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:47 am
No straw damn us wrote:
Ten academy championships in twelve years!!!

Once the players are "scouted" and signed it's up to the coaching team to develop them.

Who do you think we've missed out on?
Well it was John Monie who said you would do well if you got two first team standard players from your academy or equivalent.

The fact Wigan have won those ten championships yet have
produced just two decent centres in all of that time (Goulding and Gildart) suggests he wasn’t wrong.
So we're only to be judged on producing centres?
Or from another viewpoint - we have only payed particular concern to signing back rows with a particular skill-set

Halsall has plenty of promise, as does Hanley (after being asked to play out of position for most of his first grade games). Tanks a little empty after that
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No straw damn us wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:40 am
josie andrews wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:15 am Our scouts are pathetic once every blue moon they may find a special player!
Ten academy championships in twelve years!!!

Once the players are "scouted" and signed it's up to the coaching team to develop them.

Who do you think we've missed out on?
I’m not talking about academy players I’m talking about experienced players! Other clubs seem to find these type of players why don’t we?
Anyone can support a team when it is winning, that takes no courage.
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
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Our academy scouting seems fine, although there are definitely positions where we don't produce top players with the same regularity as other positions. Those problem positions being centre, hooker and fullback. We may have converted academy players from other positions into those roles but rarely in recent years have we developed players in those positions from academy to first team standard. Not sure how that compares to other clubs though but most clubs don't seem to produce as many first team standard players as us full stop.

When it comes to experienced players mainly we just suck at recruiting props. In all other positions we've seemed to be okay and on balance no better or worse than other clubs.
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