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Re: French

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:29 pm
by Dan2266
nathan_rugby wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:14 am
fozzieskem wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:18 pm
pedro wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:59 pm

it will be too late now to replace him with any type of quality, plus who pays for both the wages? Its a shambles, the club knew last year but gave him another contract....another **** up
Wasn’t it Bevan who invoked the extra year in his contract?
It was yes, not sure what Pedro is talking about.

Not sure of the current situation, but I did say about a month or so ago, that Bevan had communicated he wanted to trigger the clause, but he had not physically signed the paperwork off the back of it…. Ive been saying for months theres a strong possibility he wont be back, however Ive not heard anything recently so couldn't comment on the current rumours

Re: French

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:40 pm
by Mike
Would we be paying him if he didn't have an employment contract? Regardless of his intention to come back or not, I wouldn't have thought we'd be doing that without some signed paperwork. Surely the RFL wouldn't accept him as a registered player without a contract?

Re: French

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:42 pm
by Charriots Offiah
Mike wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:40 pm Would we be paying him if he didn't have an employment contract? Regardless of his intention to come back or not, I wouldn't have thought we'd be doing that without some signed paperwork. Surely the RFL wouldn't accept him as a registered player without a contract?
Who knows what the RFL are capable of!

Re: French

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:04 pm
by fozzieskem
Charriots Offiah wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:42 pm
Mike wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:40 pm Would we be paying him if he didn't have an employment contract? Regardless of his intention to come back or not, I wouldn't have thought we'd be doing that without some signed paperwork. Surely the RFL wouldn't accept him as a registered player without a contract?
Who knows what the RFL are capable of!
Logic suggests he has a deal with Wigan or else he could offski as and when he chose no?

Re: French

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:44 pm
by Dan2266
Mike wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:40 pm Would we be paying him if he didn't have an employment contract? Regardless of his intention to come back or not, I wouldn't have thought we'd be doing that without some signed paperwork. Surely the RFL wouldn't accept him as a registered player without a contract?
Id assume the same, at the timing of me knowing about the extension not being signed, he was still under contract by way of the original agreed length, so was in effect in the final year before the option was available. Like I say it may well of all changed but Ive not heard anything recently so wouldn't like to say if it has been signed or not

Re: French

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:01 pm
by widdenoldboy
fozzieskem wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:04 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:42 pm
Mike wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:40 pm Would we be paying him if he didn't have an employment contract? Regardless of his intention to come back or not, I wouldn't have thought we'd be doing that without some signed paperwork. Surely the RFL wouldn't accept him as a registered player without a contract?
Who knows what the RFL are capable of!
Logic suggests he has a deal with Wigan or else he could offski as and when he chose no?
TBF, I don't see him doing that as he wants to redeem for the GF and missing most of last season. A point could be made that its just not going to be possible.

Re: French

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:55 pm
by DaveO
widdenoldboy wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:01 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:04 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:42 pm

Who knows what the RFL are capable of!
Logic suggests he has a deal with Wigan or else he could offski as and when he chose no?
TBF, I don't see him doing that as he wants to redeem for the GF and missing most of last season. A point could be made that its just not going to be possible.
But surely it's not just up to the player with what he wants to do? He might want to redeem himself but the club needs to redeem itself in the eyes of many fans following on from some awful RL in recent seasons, no Challenge Cup win since 2013 and no GF win since 2018. I don't see how not addressing the French situation helps it do that. The club needs to have him available for a substantial part of the season or if that isn't possible it needs to use the cap money on another player. There should be a deadline for his return and the club should be scouting for potential replacements in case that deadline is reached. As others have pointed out this is a salary capped sport with quotas and so having a player on a seemingly open ended compassionate leave is not the same as in ordinary employment.

Re: French

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:17 am
by pedro
nathan_rugby wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:14 am
fozzieskem wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:18 pm
pedro wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:59 pm

it will be too late now to replace him with any type of quality, plus who pays for both the wages? Its a shambles, the club knew last year but gave him another contract....another **** up
Wasn’t it Bevan who invoked the extra year in his contract?
It was yes, not sure what Pedro is talking about.
im sure if we refused him keep going to Aus then he wouldnt have signed this or invoked it, its a terrible position for Bevan but the club needs to sort it as him missing 1 game is 1 game too many after the shambles that he offered last year

Re: French

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:18 am
by Caboosegg
pedro wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:17 am
nathan_rugby wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:14 am
fozzieskem wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:18 pm

Wasn’t it Bevan who invoked the extra year in his contract?
It was yes, not sure what Pedro is talking about.
im sure if we refused him keep going to Aus then he wouldnt have signed this or invoked it, its a terrible position for Bevan but the club needs to sort it as him missing 1 game is 1 game too many after the shambles that he offered last year
So you think the club should not of allowed him to return to Australia on compassionate grounds?

Re: French

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:35 am
by pedro
Caboosegg wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:18 am
pedro wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:17 am
nathan_rugby wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:14 am

It was yes, not sure what Pedro is talking about.
im sure if we refused him keep going to Aus then he wouldnt have signed this or invoked it, its a terrible position for Bevan but the club needs to sort it as him missing 1 game is 1 game too many after the shambles that he offered last year
So you think the club should not of allowed him to return to Australia on compassionate grounds?
not for so long no