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[Charriots Offiah]

It was more a comment on the trajectory of attendances and season tickets, in response to a post saying that people being gloomy weren’t representative of real fans. I could have written hashtagweveneverhaditsogood but thought I would pick on Thornley. Which was mean of me. We will know soon enough how enthused the support is...

I think it fair to say that crowds are dwindling across many, if not most, sports as the increased choice of home entertainment etc. grows. Netflix, Sky, Amazon prime, Disney plus et al coupled with the dominance of computer games/YouTube/ social media particularly in the younger demographic means that fewer people are turning out to watch. I really don't think you can blame this on Thornley or, in fact, recruitment in general!

The world is changing. Ever more so over recent times. Putting it down to one single thing like recruitment is massively misunderstanding the reality of the situation.

Kris Radlinski said moreorless the same thing on Sunday at Newcastle.

Young people today have so many more distractions competing with playing or watching sport.

It’s up to the club to try and reverse that mentality and get more young people to watch the game. Get them to the DW and they may just get hooked on the game, like we were.

[DaveO]

"The 3/4 line minus French at the start of the season is potentially Miski, Bibby, Thornley, Marshall and that’s just weak."


Is a good Job you don't recruit and pick the teams isn't it. That is nowhere near as bad as your making out. Could do be better yes but bad no.

not one post I have seen has said Thornley is better than gildart only that how he will go is unknown. But then again his main detractor added a year to his age and then tried to point out no other superleague team would have him while he was playing for a SL team which he had moved to from another SL team.

Stats don't tell you everything but they also show he is not as bad as made put by some.

I did not say people were saying "Thornley is better than gildart" but that people are justifying the signing of Thornley because Gildart had been injured then had a poor season. Medlock has just gone and done it again. It's not a sensible argument. Gildart left and just because he had a poor season does not justify signing a replacement player like Thornley.

As to that backline not being as bad as I make out, what are you justifying that on? Whatever Thornely's statistics say he's a poor player and past it. Bibby is just not a centre. I think defensively this pair will be a potential liability. Bibby is prone to shoot out of the line and Thornley never could do a good defensive stint. The only player in the back line who would be of interest to another top SL side is Marshall and that says a lot.

What are you making your opinion on?
Thornley 10 years ago? I really don't want to keep banging on about it as my opinion is it could go either way but his stats don't say he's past it and without watching every game he's played how can you identify he is.

The idea you have to watch every game a player has played over 10 years to form an opinion is obviously nonsense. You have made this point several times and sorry but you are being ridiculous.

Thornley is just a poor signing. Too old for an outside back to even be considered unless his reputation was that of a Gene Miles which is it isn't because throughout his 10 years in the game he's never done anything of note. We have signed a 31 year old championship level player (and that's being generous).

[DaveO]

But it wasn't just one season was it Dave, He has become an injury liability over the last several seasons, fans seem to be rating Gildart by a few good seasons he had several years ago, much like they did with Joel Tomkins and the miraculous Challenge Cup try

Gildart and his form has got nothing to do with signing Thornley. It's dead simple. If we needed a new centre, which we did, we should not be signing players like Thornley.

But it's a salary capped sport Dave, I would rather have him than have nobody

If the salary cap situation at Wigan meant we only had enough money to sign Thornley when we had precisely zero first team specialist centres in the squad that's just a reflection on how bad the salary cap is manged at Wigan such as those automatic pay rises for young players Rads mentioned at the fans forum. Warrington can sign Peter Mata’utia and have Toby King in this salary capped sport. That puts the fact we have Thornley and someone out of position puts that into perspective and it's not a good comparison.

[fozzieskem]

Gildart and his form has got nothing to do with signing Thornley. It's dead simple. If we needed a new centre, which we did, we should not be signing players like Thornley.

But it's a salary capped sport Dave, I would rather have him than have nobody

If the salary cap situation at Wigan meant we only had enough money to sign Thornley when we had precisely zero first team specialist centres in the squad that's just a reflection on how bad the salary cap is manged at Wigan such as those automatic pay rises for young players Rads mentioned at the fans forum. Warrington can sign Peter Mata’utia and have Toby King in this salary capped sport. That puts the fact we have Thornley and someone out of position puts that into perspective and it's not a good comparison.

I suspect though its down to trying to keep costs in check that they went after Thornley,is he world class no he isn't but he's not bad and will do for a couple of years,Warrington operate with a few multi millionaires on their board wigan have mainly lenegan to rely on that the way of the world at present