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shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote:
Wiganer Ted wrote:If we lose both FPN and Sutton this season then we need to recruit.
Navarrette is a good replacement but we haven't had any injuries to our props which is the most attritional position of them all.
I prefer to buy in rather than expose some of the U19s lads to playing prop in the first team which by the sounds of it could be for
over half of the season.

Who would we bring in and at this stage be prepared to pay a fee for?
Kopczak.
Neil Battye from London Broncos looks a very decent impact player also.
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shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote:Ryan has received offers from several Aussie clubs but no deal has been agreed yet. He is still waiting for Wigan to make him an offer!
He asked for a release at the end of last season and was refused. Only reason he is still at Wigan at the moment
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wall_of_voodoo wrote:
shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote:Ryan has received offers from several Aussie clubs but no deal has been agreed yet. He is still waiting for Wigan to make him an offer!
He asked for a release at the end of last season and was refused. Only reason he is still at Wigan at the moment
They should of released him his size and skill level will never get a senior game in the NRL. Crosby imo would of stood a chance in the NRL
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If Ryan Sutton were to leave in the next few weeks and a replacement brought in, Kopcjak as SEFC suggested. We would then have Flower, Clubb, Joel perhaps plus Kopcjack who are around the 30/31 age group and are likely to stay and see their careers out at Wigan. TT is still there and will probably see out his contract.
It's only Navarrette who is much younger but I can't see him going anywhere if he keeps up his current form.

The prop forward places would be stable and the opportunity there to give the U19s lads a run out as and when it is felt right. They would have very experienced men around them to guide them around.
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"In my head, I'm playing to the end of the year," he said. "I want to do well for Wigan and win some silverware because we came unstuck last year."

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... l-interest

will probably leave next week now he has said that
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Wiganer Ted wrote:If Ryan Sutton were to leave in the next few weeks and a replacement brought in, Kopcjak as SEFC suggested. We would then have Flower, Clubb, Joel perhaps plus Kopcjack who are around the 30/31 age group and are likely to stay and see their careers out at Wigan. TT is still there and will probably see out his contract.
It's only Navarrette who is much younger but I can't see him going anywhere if he keeps up his current form.

The prop forward places would be stable and the opportunity there to give the U19s lads a run out as and when it is felt right. They would have very experienced men around them to guide them around.
Our present set of props is the worst in super league, for Wake who should know this position more than anyone it's a disgrace. It would be like Rads not being able to spot a good full back.
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Josie's friend wrote:
Wiganer Ted wrote:If Ryan Sutton were to leave in the next few weeks and a replacement brought in, Kopcjak as SEFC suggested. We would then have Flower, Clubb, Joel perhaps plus Kopcjack who are around the 30/31 age group and are likely to stay and see their careers out at Wigan. TT is still there and will probably see out his contract.
It's only Navarrette who is much younger but I can't see him going anywhere if he keeps up his current form.

The prop forward places would be stable and the opportunity there to give the U19s lads a run out as and when it is felt right. They would have very experienced men around them to guide them around.
Our present set of props is the worst in super league, for Wake who should know this position more than anyone it's a disgrace. It would be like Rads not being able to spot a good full back.
Or like Charnley coming back on the wing
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Why are so many fans pushing for Joel to play at prop, surely we should be looking for a prop to replace a prop and not a has been second row penalty machine who has been living off that try he once scored in a Challenge Cup final 7 years ago
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medlocke wrote:Why are so many fans pushing for Joel to play at prop, surely we should be looking for a prop to replace a prop and not a has been second row penalty machine who has been living off that try he once scored in a Challenge Cup final 7 years ago
And when Bradford moved Peacock to prop, that was a waste of time too :wink: In all seriousness, many players move forward to the front row as their careers go on.

I don't know if Joel would be a good player to follow that pattern or not, but your gripe about him being a penalty machine is one thing that might reduce if he moves in field, as he'll be less likely to be isolated in defence, so should be more in control of his technique. It also makes him more likely to be spelled so more likely to be less fatigued, another thing that helps reduce penalties conceded.
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markill wrote:
medlocke wrote:Why are so many fans pushing for Joel to play at prop, surely we should be looking for a prop to replace a prop and not a has been second row penalty machine who has been living off that try he once scored in a Challenge Cup final 7 years ago
And when Bradford moved Peacock to prop, that was a waste of time too :wink: In all seriousness, many players move forward to the front row as their careers go on.

I don't know if Joel would be a good player to follow that pattern or not, but your gripe about him being a penalty machine is one thing that might reduce if he moves in field, as he'll be less likely to be isolated in defence, so should be more in control of his technique. It also makes him more likely to be spelled so more likely to be less fatigued, another thing that helps reduce penalties conceded.

In all seriousness your not comparing Peacock to joel Tomkins. Peacock is one of very few to thrive in sl era. Agree with meds does not make sense not to replace a prop with a prop. We are already paper light.
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