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Re: Jake bibby

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:34 am
by ddtftf
Accounts are only as good as the information entered into them and we were fined 2 points for not revealing all the info :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Jake bibby

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:40 am
by No straw damn us
ddtftf wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:34 am Accounts are only as good as the information entered into them and we were fined 2 points for not revealing all the info :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
That was the salary cap not the accounts!

Are you accusing IL and Fairhurst accountants of misinformation in the clubs accounts?

Re: Jake bibby

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:52 pm
by wall_of_voodoo
No straw damn us wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:40 am
ddtftf wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:34 am Accounts are only as good as the information entered into them and we were fined 2 points for not revealing all the info :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
That was the salary cap not the accounts!

Are you accusing IL and Fairhurst accountants of misinformation in the clubs accounts?
Whilst he/she might not be directly making that accusation, to pretend that cooking the books and fiddling figures and expenses doesn't go on is naive in the extreme. There are loads of examples in and out of sport :roll:

Re: Jake bibby

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:15 pm
by ddtftf
Accountants only submit what is given to them, but there are lots of legal ways to offset losses against other subsidiary companies owned by the person submitting the accounts of a major company.

You can also legally take directors bonuses each year , it would be interesting to clear the air and post all the money the club has received from selling players Sam / Bateman / Joel / George / Sutton / Micky Mac / The wrecking Ball etc etc and tell us why we are at the limit for the salary cap, and were it has been spent as when you look at the facts it doesnt add up

Re: Jake bibby

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:14 pm
by old hooker
Here we go again IL is running the cub into the ground and yet some wont see it

Re: Jake bibby

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:29 pm
by No straw damn us
ddtftf wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:15 pm Accountants only submit what is given to them, but there are lots of legal ways to offset losses against other subsidiary companies owned by the person submitting the accounts of a major company.

You can also legally take directors bonuses each year , it would be interesting to clear the air and post all the money the club has received from selling players Sam / Bateman / Joel / George / Sutton / Micky Mac / The wrecking Ball etc etc and tell us why we are at the limit for the salary cap, and were it has been spent as when you look at the facts it doesnt add up
When you ran your factory did you go publish all of your accounts on a line by line basis with everyone?
Only Radlinski received any payments and that was as Rugby General Manager.
See page 15 of the 2017 accounts.

https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/docu ... 70759ad8ad

Re: Jake bibby

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:09 pm
by fozzieskem
No straw damn us wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:29 pm
ddtftf wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:15 pm Accountants only submit what is given to them, but there are lots of legal ways to offset losses against other subsidiary companies owned by the person submitting the accounts of a major company.

You can also legally take directors bonuses each year , it would be interesting to clear the air and post all the money the club has received from selling players Sam / Bateman / Joel / George / Sutton / Micky Mac / The wrecking Ball etc etc and tell us why we are at the limit for the salary cap, and were it has been spent as when you look at the facts it doesnt add up
When you ran your factory did you go publish all of your accounts on a line by line basis with everyone?
Only Radlinski received any payments and that was as Rugby General Manager.
See page 15 of the 2017 accounts.

https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/docu ... 70759ad8ad
I think though what he’s saying accountants can only submit what they’re given,and I’ve little doubt in any sport a little creativity goes on.

Or not depending on your point of view

Re: Jake bibby

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:39 pm
by wall_of_voodoo
I will tell you this

A former chief executive of the Wigan Warriors walked away from sport with more than a little money that NEVER saw the light of day on the club books. Simply walked into the club shop in the galleries and emptied the tills and when questioned he muttered" nothing to do with them" and he would walk out. The accounts showed thousand of pounds worth of timber "bought" but no one ever saw the timber or knew where it actually was

Re: Jake bibby

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:28 pm
by Fujiman
wall_of_voodoo wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:39 pm I will tell you this

A former chief executive of the Wigan Warriors walked away from sport with more than a little money that NEVER saw the light of day on the club books. Simply walked into the club shop in the galleries and emptied the tills and when questioned he muttered" nothing to do with them" and he would walk out. The accounts showed thousand of pounds worth of timber "bought" but no one ever saw the timber or knew where it actually was
So your saying he stole it?

Re: Jake bibby

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:44 pm
by ddtftf
In the days gone by it was a joke that 2 of the entrance styles clocking supporters in didnt register as they entered the ground :roll: :roll: :roll:

I believe when Wigan played Manly away many years ago they said there was around 12 thousand on when eye witnesses said it was closer to 50 thousand just a few examples of beating the system