Zak Hardaker’s future ‘up in the air’ as new twist develops

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Re: Zak Hardaker’s future ‘up in the air’ as new twist develops

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DaveO wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:31 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote:Well even the RL media can't agree regarding whether Tommy counts on the overseas quota so what chance is there for us mere mortals?

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... 2-21504703

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ot-4895850


https://www.totalrl.com/how-super-leagu ... uota-2021/
The last link is the most useful as it explains the simplified quota rules. Reading that, doesn’t TL’s status hinge on whether or not he’s classed as Federation trained?

The simplified quota rules mean clubs can sign seven non federation trained players. So on the expectation normally all prospective NRL players will be non fed trained as they will have spent their junior years in Oz or NZ we can have seven of them.

TL came over when he was 17 didn’t he? So if he qualifies as federation trained due to this we could have TL plus seven other non federation trained players.
was it not 19?
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No straw damn us wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:54 am Leuluai only came over to play for London in 2005, he was born in 1985 so he would have been 19. If that's the case he wouldn't have played three years before he was twenty-one over here.
He joined London in 2004 London Broncos Edit
In 2004, Leuluai signed a contract with Super League side London Broncos as a replacement for Dennis Moran who had left the Broncos to join the Wigan Warriors. He spent two years at the club playing 38 games and scoring 19 tries. Both seasons were affected by injury. In 2005, his season was cut short by a broken ankle[5] while his 2006 campaign was disrupted by a hamstring injury sustained while playing for New Zealand. His contract was not extended and he agreed to join the Wigan Warriors for the 2007 season.

Wigan Warriors Edit
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keptinthedarkfans wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:38 am
No straw damn us wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:54 am Leuluai only came over to play for London in 2005, he was born in 1985 so he would have been 19. If that's the case he wouldn't have played three years before he was twenty-one over here.
He joined London in 2004 London Broncos Edit
In 2004, Leuluai signed a contract with Super League side London Broncos as a replacement for Dennis Moran who had left the Broncos to join the Wigan Warriors. He spent two years at the club playing 38 games and scoring 19 tries. Both seasons were affected by injury. In 2005, his season was cut short by a broken ankle[5] while his 2006 campaign was disrupted by a hamstring injury sustained while playing for New Zealand. His contract was not extended and he agreed to join the Wigan Warriors for the 2007 season.

Wigan Warriors Edit
signed in 2004 for the 2005 season
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pedro wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:22 pm
keptinthedarkfans wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:38 am
No straw damn us wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:54 am Leuluai only came over to play for London in 2005, he was born in 1985 so he would have been 19. If that's the case he wouldn't have played three years before he was twenty-one over here.
He joined London in 2004 London Broncos Edit
In 2004, Leuluai signed a contract with Super League side London Broncos as a replacement for Dennis Moran who had left the Broncos to join the Wigan Warriors. He spent two years at the club playing 38 games and scoring 19 tries. Both seasons were affected by injury. In 2005, his season was cut short by a broken ankle[5] while his 2006 campaign was disrupted by a hamstring injury sustained while playing for New Zealand. His contract was not extended and he agreed to join the Wigan Warriors for the 2007 season.

Wigan Warriors Edit
signed in 2004 for the 2005 season
Yes but signed 2004 became a Broncos player from that minute
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keptinthedarkfans wrote:
pedro wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:22 pm
keptinthedarkfans wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:38 am He joined London in 2004 London Broncos Edit
In 2004, Leuluai signed a contract with Super League side London Broncos as a replacement for Dennis Moran who had left the Broncos to join the Wigan Warriors. He spent two years at the club playing 38 games and scoring 19 tries. Both seasons were affected by injury. In 2005, his season was cut short by a broken ankle[5] while his 2006 campaign was disrupted by a hamstring injury sustained while playing for New Zealand. His contract was not extended and he agreed to join the Wigan Warriors for the 2007 season.

Wigan Warriors Edit
signed in 2004 for the 2005 season
Yes but signed 2004 became a Broncos player from that minute
So if he was 18 when he signed for London doesn’t that take him off the non federation list?
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https://www.rugby-league.com/article/55 ... ft-players

Above link confirms that, as of 9 July 2019, Tommy was classed as an overseas/non-Federation trained player by the RFL.

Can't imagine anything has changed since then. I always thought, based on hearsay, that he was Fed-trained.
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keptinthedarkfans wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:53 pm
pedro wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:22 pm
keptinthedarkfans wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:38 am

He joined London in 2004 London Broncos Edit
In 2004, Leuluai signed a contract with Super League side London Broncos as a replacement for Dennis Moran who had left the Broncos to join the Wigan Warriors. He spent two years at the club playing 38 games and scoring 19 tries. Both seasons were affected by injury. In 2005, his season was cut short by a broken ankle[5] while his 2006 campaign was disrupted by a hamstring injury sustained while playing for New Zealand. His contract was not extended and he agreed to join the Wigan Warriors for the 2007 season.

Wigan Warriors Edit
signed in 2004 for the 2005 season
Yes but signed 2004 became a Broncos player from that minute
no he doesnt, he signs in 2004 for the 2005 season, he didnt play a game in 2004 as he was still in NZ
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morley pie eater wrote:https://www.rugby-league.com/article/55 ... ft-players

Above link confirms that, as of 9 July 2019, Tommy was classed as an overseas/non-Federation trained player by the RFL.

Can't imagine anything has changed since then. I always thought, based on hearsay, that he was Fed-trained.
Well that’s what it all hinges on as now players are just fed trained or they count on the quota as you can have seven non fed trained players and that is it.

So if that article is correct he takes a slot and prevents us signing a. non fed half back, which would include the one from Wakey we were linked with. So who knows which U.K. half back the club is after if IL is serious that we are still after one.

Non fed players are TL, Isa, Ellis, Mago, French, Field and Singleton.

I am starting to think whoever posted TL is going around again so we can sign the Wakey half back next season is correct.
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DaveO wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:49 pm
morley pie eater wrote:https://www.rugby-league.com/article/55 ... ft-players

Above link confirms that, as of 9 July 2019, Tommy was classed as an overseas/non-Federation trained player by the RFL.

Can't imagine anything has changed since then. I always thought, based on hearsay, that he was Fed-trained.
Well that’s what it all hinges on as now players are just fed trained or they count on the quota as you can have seven non fed trained players and that is it.

So if that article is correct he takes a slot and prevents us signing a. non fed half back, which would include the one from Wakey we were linked with. So who knows which U.K. half back the club is after if IL is serious that we are still after one.

Non fed players are TL, Isa, Ellis, Mago, French, Field and Singleton.

I am starting to think whoever posted TL is going around again so we can sign the Wakey half back next season is correct.
singleton? cumbria isnt that far ;)
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DaveO wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:49 pm
morley pie eater wrote:https://www.rugby-league.com/article/55 ... ft-players

Above link confirms that, as of 9 July 2019, Tommy was classed as an overseas/non-Federation trained player by the RFL.

Can't imagine anything has changed since then. I always thought, based on hearsay, that he was Fed-trained.
Well that’s what it all hinges on as now players are just fed trained or they count on the quota as you can have seven non fed trained players and that is it.

So if that article is correct he takes a slot and prevents us signing a. non fed half back, which would include the one from Wakey we were linked with. So who knows which U.K. half back the club is after if IL is serious that we are still after one.

Non fed players are TL, Isa, Ellis, Mago, French, Field and Singleton.

I am starting to think whoever posted TL is going around again so we can sign the Wakey half back next season is correct.
Singleton?

Tommy, Isa, Miski, French, Field, Ellis,Mago?
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