Barba 'a loss' to rugby league - Wilkin

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Barba 'a loss' to rugby league - Wilkin

Post by josie andrews » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:48 pm

Jon Wilkin, a former team-mate of Ben Barba, says it would be 'a loss' to rugby league if the 2018 Man of Steel is banned.

Barba was the leading try-scorer in Super League last year but looks likely to be banned for life by the NRL in his native Australia after an alleged assault on his partner at a casino.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/rugby-league/47128253
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Post by josie andrews » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:54 pm

The two players he mentions, Hardaker & Hock, didn’t attack their girlfriends, partners or wives!
They self inflicted themselves with drink and/or drugs.

Violence, whether domestic or not, against females or males should not be tolerated under any circumstances IMO 😠
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Post by old hooker » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:47 pm

Violence against women is abhorrent and should not be tolerated and neither should drink driving and putting peoples lives at risk so lets not go down the road of saying Hardaker is not as bad as Barba.

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Post by Wiganer Ted » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:37 pm

He will be a loss but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be sacked. He should!
Looks like there's no return for him this time.

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Post by Caboosegg » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:29 am

old hooker wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:47 pm
Violence against women is abhorrent and should not be tolerated and neither should drink driving and putting peoples lives at risk so lets not go down the road of saying Hardaker is not as bad as Barba.

No one is worse that the other.

One put peoples lives at risk but nothing happened

The other has assaulted his partner on cctv.

Not that im justifying Hardaker in any way but they are different.

If hardaket had hit someone while drink driving it would be the same.
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Re: Barba 'a loss' to rugby league - Wilkin

Post by Mike » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:48 am

josie andrews wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:54 pm
The two players he mentions, Hardaker & Hock, didn’t attack their girlfriends, partners or wives!
They self inflicted themselves with drink and/or drugs.

Violence, whether domestic or not, against females or males should not be tolerated under any circumstances IMO 😠
Pretty sure Hardaker attacked a student in Leeds in a racially motivated attack didn't he?

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Post by josie andrews » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:24 pm


Brian Carney questions decision to hand Ben Barba lifetime ban


Sky Sports' Brian Carney has questioned the "mechanics" behind the National Rugby League's decision to hand former Super League star Ben Barba a lifetime ban.

Barba, the reigning Man of Steel, has been deregistered by the NRL after the game's integrity unit viewed CCTV footage of an alleged assault on his partner.

The 29-year-old former St Helens full-back, who was the leading try-scorer in Super League in 2018, was sacked by North Queensland Cowboys without playing a game following the alleged incident outside a Townsville casino.

While expressing his disgust at Barba's alleged actions, Carney has queried the readiness of NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg to ban the player before the official investigation is complete.

He has also questioned the apparent change in approach following the decision to hand fellow NRL player Matthew Lodge a chance to resume his playing career last year having assaulted a man and threatened a family in an incident in New York in 2015.

"I have a problem with the mechanics of the decision making in the NRL, how they came to this decision to give him a lifetime ban," Carney told Sky Sports News.

"I can read you a quote from 12 months ago where Todd Greenberg didn't believe in rubbing people out of the game for their lifetime. Look at the Matthew Lodge incident in New York where he terrorised a family and a nine year old child."

"Greenberg said publically that rugby league is a sport that gives people who have committed grave errors a second chance so my problem is that, while there is still a police investigation into this incident, the NRL have issued a lifetime ban for the first time in the competition's history.

“They have set a precedent now, pulled it out of nowhere. I believe they have been too reactionary on this and they have been followed by the Super League and the RFL governing bodies."

Carney added: "I would prefer to see a more patient and calm approach to dealing with this situation, press pause, allow the proper authorities to conduct a full investigation and then make a decision.

"Of course, what he is alleged to have done, I abhor that, it goes without saying, but I have a massive problem with the mechanics of the NRL decision making process."

https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... fetime-ban
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Post by josie andrews » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:29 pm

While expressing his disgust at Barba's alleged actions, Carney has queried the readiness of NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg to ban the player before the official investigation is complete.
Brian Carney & his other Sky cohorts haven’t queried the readiness of the RFL to impose a two point deduction against Wigan & make the announcement the day before SL started!

Why wasn’t the appeal process heard & a decision made before the sentence was given or an announcement made?
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Post by moto748 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:18 pm

Well, keeping with Barba...

I was under the impression Todd Greenberg had originally said Barba would be deregistered if he was found guilty in a court case, and now it seems a look at some video footage is good enough? It's understandable that the NRL want to be seen to be taking a hard line, but they need to get all their ducks in a row. As Carney rightly says, precedents are set by cases like this. I'm sure Barba's lawyers will be studying the Lodge case.

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Re: Barba 'a loss' to rugby league - Wilkin

Post by josie andrews » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:08 am

Ben Barba receives potential lifeline in the Super League

https://www.zerotackle.com/ben-barba-re ... gue-40312/
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