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Re: Tony Smith to HKR

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:03 pm
by nathan_rugby
fozzieskem wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:36 pm
nathan_rugby wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:39 am
fozzieskem wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:25 pm Good coach but past his best for me,same with Sheens to be honest
How do coaches get passed their best? Not disagreeing but interested to hear if you have any thoughts on the subject.

Is it motivation, is it a lack of changing styles/tactics, is it a slow down of the brain!
A good question I think it’s as you say a combination of things plus the game itself just moves on and opens it’s self to new ideas.

What surprised about Smith was how young he is as he seems to have been around for ages,certainly at Wire he was just there far too long,we see of course how it pans out for him
Other than Fergie at UTD and Wenger at Arsenal, there hasn’t been to many example of coaches sustaining high results with similar longevity.

Re: Tony Smith to HKR

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:13 pm
by fozzieskem
nathan_rugby wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:03 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:36 pm
nathan_rugby wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:39 am

How do coaches get passed their best? Not disagreeing but interested to hear if you have any thoughts on the subject.

Is it motivation, is it a lack of changing styles/tactics, is it a slow down of the brain!
A good question I think it’s as you say a combination of things plus the game itself just moves on and opens it’s self to new ideas.

What surprised about Smith was how young he is as he seems to have been around for ages,certainly at Wire he was just there far too long,we see of course how it pans out for him
Other than Fergie at UTD and Wenger at Arsenal, there hasn’t been to many example of coaches sustaining high results with similar longevity.
the exception to the rule.

Re: Tony Smith to HKR

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:42 am
by Caboosegg
fozzieskem wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:13 pm
nathan_rugby wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:03 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:36 pm
A good question I think it’s as you say a combination of things plus the game itself just moves on and opens it’s self to new ideas.

What surprised about Smith was how young he is as he seems to have been around for ages,certainly at Wire he was just there far too long,we see of course how it pans out for him
Other than Fergie at UTD and Wenger at Arsenal, there hasn’t been to many example of coaches sustaining high results with similar longevity.
the exception to the rule.
This will start a argument but
Wane kept wigan up in the mix his entire tenure.

Re: Tony Smith to HKR

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:49 am
by nathan_rugby
Caboosegg wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:42 am
fozzieskem wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:13 pm
nathan_rugby wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:03 pm

Other than Fergie at UTD and Wenger at Arsenal, there hasn’t been to many example of coaches sustaining high results with similar longevity.
the exception to the rule.
This will start a argument but
Wane kept wigan up in the mix his entire tenure.
Still had mixed results in his league finishes though. Whether that was intentional, due to injuries or an inability to consistently perform in the league year on year, it is unknown to us all. Probably a combination of all 3.

Must be hard gearing up the team week in week out not only against teams you may have already played numerous times but having it in the back of your head the league finish isn’t the be all and end all.