Hock announces retirement

[nathan_rugby]

I don't give a toss what you think of Rads comments, it was a gesture for Gareth to play his final season where it all started for him.

You've all got plenty to say about him, but how many of you really know the lad?

His recent form and injury record did not warrant this nice gesture though, that is the point.

[medlocke]

I don't give a toss what you think of Rads comments, it was a gesture for Gareth to play his final season where it all started for him.

You've all got plenty to say about him, but how many of you really know the lad?

His recent form and injury record did not warrant this nice gesture though, that is the point.

Neither did his drugs ban or the way he behaved towards the club and fans after the drugs ban

[josie andrews]

I don't give a toss what you think of Rads comments, it was a gesture for Gareth to play his final season where it all started for him.

You've all got plenty to say about him, but how many of you really know the lad?

His recent form and injury record did not warrant this nice gesture though, that is the point.

Neither did his drugs ban or the way he behaved towards the club and fans after the drugs ban

Please enlighten me about this so called behaviour?

[Wintergreen]

I think it's helpful to segregate our assessment of Gareth.

1. On the pitch
2. Off the pitch


Off the pitch I know little, if anything about his personal life, so can't comment.

On the pitch he was extremely talented, but, imo failed to make the most of this talent, which was a real shame.

[old hooker]

I don't give a toss what you think of Rads comments, it was a gesture for Gareth to play his final season where it all started for him.

You've all got plenty to say about him, but how many of you really know the lad?

I live in Gwynedd and i have been told he is one of the nicest person you could meet. And that has come to me first hand by someone i know knows him.

I have also been told he is a good lad but that does not hide the fact he has wasted his best years and let the Wigan club and its fans down.

[nathan_rugby]

I think it's helpful to segregate our assessment of Gareth.

1. On the pitch
2. Off the pitch


Off the pitch I know little, if anything about his personal life, so can't comment.

On the pitch he was extremely talented, but, imo failed to make the most of this talent, which was a real shame.

His talent was undoubted and I agree he failed to take himself up to the world class and unplayable level.

How many years was he very very good at Wigan? Consistently that is.

The difference between the good players with potential and the world class players, in any sport, is consistency. Using Football for example, the reason Messi and Ronald are considered the best ever is because they have been consistent almost game in game out for 10 years plus.

[ddtftf]

I knew Gaz as a friend and i can tell you off the field he was a great lad and generous to a fault , he was in private life nothing like the fierce player we used to cheer on.

[wall_of_voodoo]

Still doesn't mean the club owed him some sort of "swansong" or place in the team either though

[thegimble]

Still doesn't mean the club owed him some sort of "swansong" or place in the team either though

Did he get it?

[nathan_rugby]

Still doesn't mean the club owed him some sort of "swansong" or place in the team either though

Did he get it?

No, but we are debating the “gesture” the club made. Wasn’t super league standard and definitely wasn’t standard to be 5th choice prop at Wigan at the time the offer was made.