Shaun Wane not interested in “irrelevant” Phil Clarke’s criticism

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Shaun Wane not interested in “irrelevant” Phil Clarke’s criticism

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Shaun Wane has branded Sky Sports punding Phil Clarke as “irrelevant” after the Sky Sports pundit criticised his appointment as England head coach.

Clarke suggested Wane’s success at Wigan was largely down to the work of predecessor Michael Maguire, as well as the Warriors’ spending.

Wane won three Super League titles during his seven years in charge of his boyhood club, while also lifting the Challenge Cup, World Club Challenge and League Leaders’ Shield.

But Clarke said on Wane’s England appointment: “I wouldn’t have given him the job.

“I think he was lucky to take over from Michael Maguire, a transformational coach, who really set Wigan up to do that. He was lucky. Wigan are a well-resourced club and I think the last time they won the Grand Final they’d spent more on players than any other and generally the more expensive team buys success and wins a Grand Final.”

When asked about Clarke’s comments, Wane said: “He’s irrelevant to me.

“I didn’t see his comments, but he’s irrelevant. There are more important things in the world and I’m not concerned about him.”

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WANE CONFIRMS BACKROOM APPOINTMENTS

Shaun Wane has confirmed the appointment of Hull FC's Andy Last and St Helens coach Paul Wellens to his England coaching staff.

Wane, who took over as England Head Coach in January, had been planning to announce the appointments at a first gathering of players and support staff at Old Trafford last month.

However both Last and Wellens joined a webinar this week at which Wane addressed coaches and support staff of all teams in the England Performance Unit about “Developing Winning Behaviour and Standards”.

Last, 38, is a former England Academy coach who has become a key figure at Hull FC since retiring as a player in 2004, initially as head of youth development before becoming assistant coach to Richard Agar then Lee Radford – and is currently the interim head coach at the club having been appointed to take the reins following the departure of Radford last month. He gained senior international experience as a member of the Scotland coaching staff at the 2017 Rugby League World Cup.

Wellens, who is 40, has moved on to the St Helens coaching staff since ending his outstanding playing career for his hometown club in 2015. He earned 37 caps for England and Great Britain, won the domestic game’s three major individual honours – the Harry Sunderland Trophy, the Lance Todd Trophy, and the Man of Steel Award – and was a member of the England coaching staff for the 2017 World Cup and the home series win against New Zealand in 2018, before taking a break last year.

Shaun Wane said:

“These are two important appointments for me, and I’m delighted to have Andy and Paul on board. They are both vastly experienced, and they are the sort of characters I want to have involved with my England set-up.”

Peacock will be succeeded by Colin Maskill, who represented five Yorkshire clubs in a long and distinguished playing career, and has since worked in a number of roles in the game and also in logistics with the sportswear specialists ISC.

Ralph Rimmer, the RFL chief executive, said: “We paid tribute to Kevin Sinfield and the immense contribution he had made to the England Performance Unit when he stepped down in January, and it is right that we do likewise for Danny Ward, Ian Watson and Jamie Peacock for their efforts with Great Britain last autumn, and in Jamie’s case stretching back several years with England and Great Britain.

“They have all made a significant contribution, for which we are grateful. I know they were all proud to work with the national team, and I hope they feel the experience was beneficial as well as enjoyable.”

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Surprised no Watson involved, id even as far as say disappointed.


Has Phil Clarke been reading these forums 😂 what a load of rubbish.
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It's Clarke's role at Sky: they want someone to provoke controversy.

Apparently some bloke called Souness had a go at a Frenchman who plays for Man United. Same thing.

Unfortunately Clarke is not very good at it. I think someone at Sky gives him his script and he learns his lines before he goes to bed.
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I agree with the above but he was right in the case of mcguire did total transform wigan
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Firestarter wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:23 am I agree with the above but he was right in the case of mcguire did total transform wigan
And then he left taking the spine of the team with him... the the following year more players had gone, i'm sorry but i don't see many coaches achieving what Wane did with the churn we had playerwise.

Wanes success is Wanes success its a major disservice to give credit to Maguire. How do you know Wane wasn't involved in creating the setup with Maguire he after all was the assistant coach at the time.

If wanes success was down to Maguire why did he get flak for Waneball.... surely that should be Maguireball.
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Caboosegg wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:50 am
Firestarter wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:23 am I agree with the above but he was right in the case of mcguire did total transform wigan
And then he left taking the spine of the team with him... the the following year more players had gone, i'm sorry but i don't see many coaches achieving what Wane did with the churn we had playerwise.

Wanes success is Wanes success its a major disservice to give credit to Maguire. How do you know Wane wasn't involved in creating the setup with Maguire he after all was the assistant coach at the time.

If wanes success was down to Maguire why did he get flak for Waneball.... surely that should be Maguireball.
he did get them playing better and we were so much fitter as well....... i never said wane did a bad job but, maguire did change the team for the better....... wane was a better motivator imo........ it was exactly the same with graham lowe........ he got the ball rolling and monie got more credit
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Clarke has more Rugby league knowledge than Wayne will ever have having played RL in the NRL until injury curtailed his playing career. He also studied at Liverpool University so is educated to a level intellectually higher than SW has. Clarke is spot on in his assessment of SW his c.v
Re him winning this that and the other the players won those accolades despite him not because of him. His style is" old hat" out dated and more importantly boring.
His appointments have'nt made my heart miss a beat in excited anticipation on the contrary I see a future of further ignomy when facing NZ and Australia. I believe Clarke will be shown to be correct and if so his reflections manifestly RELEVANT. 😜🍷cheers
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Read ignominy for ignomy "burp!" Pardon me!
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SJ wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:21 pm Clarke has more Rugby league knowledge than Wayne will ever have having played RL in the NRL until injury curtailed his playing career. He also studied at Liverpool University so is educated to a level intellectually higher than SW has. Clarke is spot on in his assessment of SW his c.v
Re him winning this that and the other the players won those accolades despite him not because of him. His style is" old hat" out dated and more importantly boring.
His appointments have'nt made my heart miss a beat in excited anticipation on the contrary I see a future of further ignomy when facing NZ and Australia. I believe Clarke will be shown to be correct and if so his reflections manifestly RELEVANT. 😜🍷cheers
Give over! You can’t compare the two as players. Clarke speaks a load of codswallop on Sky!
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