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Footy went boring when bolton had been in the prem a while..... im actually enjoying footy more now than ever, down in the doldrums, josiejosie andrews wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:26 pm Bloody pansy footballers are paid far too much IMO! Disgusting
To be fair DaveO i think that's harsh - if you compare the premier league now to 10 years ago for example only 13 of the 20 teams were in the premier league then and some in the premier league now were in league 1-2 then so it does turn over - yes there are probably 10 clubs that are mainstays but the rest are up for grabsDaveO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:11 pmWhat I find interesting about this football super league saga is the outrage seems mainly to be about it being a closed shop. There are other closed shops in sport. The NRL for one and the Six Nations Rugby. I'd quite like our SL to be a closed shop given I have always thought P&R between a pro league and the rest is a farce.
Even though fans of clubs like Swansea and Burnley have zero chance of ever seeing their clubs join the existing elite (never mind this super league) at the top of the pile unless they are bought out by some super-rich entity who will throw money at them that is what the main fuss seems to be about.
I think the opportunity is an illusion these days. Even when Leicester won the league in 2016 it was after they had been bought out and broke spending rules to get into the premier league in the first place. The Premier league has about four clubs or five that can win it and maybe another four or five that can compete for a top four spot on a consistent bases. The other half of the league is about a different competition in reality, not getting relegated.Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:23 pmTo be fair DaveO i think that's harsh - if you compare the premier league now to 10 years ago for example only 13 of the 20 teams were in the premier league then and some in the premier league now were in league 1-2 then so it does turn over - yes there are probably 10 clubs that are mainstays but the rest are up for grabsDaveO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:11 pmWhat I find interesting about this football super league saga is the outrage seems mainly to be about it being a closed shop. There are other closed shops in sport. The NRL for one and the Six Nations Rugby. I'd quite like our SL to be a closed shop given I have always thought P&R between a pro league and the rest is a farce.
Even though fans of clubs like Swansea and Burnley have zero chance of ever seeing their clubs join the existing elite (never mind this super league) at the top of the pile unless they are bought out by some super-rich entity who will throw money at them that is what the main fuss seems to be about.
i suppose in the end that doesn't matter as long as the dream and opportunity is there and a direction of travel, for all its faults football has always been a competition and people can complain about money but at the end of the day any the opportunity is there and look at us a salary cap doesnt make the competition any more diverse at least in football you can invest in a team and make it succesful
I just think football & all these bloody celebrities need reigning in! The money being paid is astronomical for doing sweet FA (see the football pun)Firestarter wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:33 pmFooty went boring when bolton had been in the prem a while..... im actually enjoying footy more now than ever, down in the doldrums, josiejosie andrews wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:26 pm Bloody pansy footballers are paid far too much IMO! Disgusting
when we are playing at home & I can’t go down & see the lads because of Covid 
Football isnt what it used to be thats for surejosie andrews wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:52 pmI just think football & all these bloody celebrities need reigning in! The money being paid is astronomical for doing sweet FA (see the football pun)Firestarter wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:33 pmFooty went boring when bolton had been in the prem a while..... im actually enjoying footy more now than ever, down in the doldrums, josiejosie andrews wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:26 pm Bloody pansy footballers are paid far too much IMO! Disgusting
I just think it’s obscene. But that’s my opinion. I stopped watching football in 1966 when all the prima donnas started rolling over as if they’d been poleaxed! That did it for me!
I wouldn’t bother if they played or did anything hard like RL!
And yes, I’m down in the doldrumswhen we are playing at home & I can’t go down & see the lads because of Covid
ive been saying it about the premiership for years but the diving is getting a lot worse in the lower divisions these daysmoto748 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:05 pm
And people have been saying that for a long time!
Not like "the good old days", eh?
There are plenty of complaints about footballers being overpaid, but it reflects the size of the sport and the money involved. Golfers and basketball players earn more, but don't seem to attract the same opprobrium. And footballers certainly earn their pay compared to the Ant and Decs of this world.
But this EPL idea is a tawdry plan. Real football fans will be the loser. However, I suspect that it's more sabre-rattling at the moment. I don't believe Liverpool. Man Utd etc will risk getting points deducted, or worse, getting slung out of the Premiership. I think they are just trying to see how strong their bargaining position is at the moment.
Completely rightnathan_rugby wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:03 am Hilarious people complaining about the amount footballers get paid.
Why does that matter? It reflects the size and popularity of the sport.