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Re: England Vs Samoa
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:37 pm
by moto748
Feel for Waney. He wasn't on the pitch, we butchered chances and handed them some soft tries. Plus, Samoa were very good. Luai is some player.
Re: England Vs Samoa
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:39 pm
by Caboosegg
Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:32 pm
Caboosegg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:25 pm
Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:19 pm
Wane has to take this one I'm afraid.
With Radley at 9 England look a massive threat.
With McIllorum there.................well.
It was working and Wane put him back on!
Really? so the really costly defensive errors are nothing to so with it?
Just Wanes team pick.
Semi final rugby and Watkins dropped the ball on a certain try. Dom Young dropped a simple catch, Radley gave a hospital pass which got intercepted.
None of these players have played badly but in test rugby errors like that are costly.
His game management.
Sorry your talking Wet. 3 Samao tries and the position for the drop goal came of individual errors. That wasn't game management. Micky Mac doesn't set a foot wrong in the game but you single his selection and Wane out.
Welsby knocked on in GP, Tomkins threw a forward pass maybe the shouldn't have been picked?
Re: England Vs Samoa
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:42 pm
by Richymac
Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:35 pm
fozzieskem wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:33 pm
Always felt this would be a tough,tough game best side won
Frankly if you took away the NRL players from the England team, we would have lost by 50.
Worrying for RL in this country and something to ponder the next time the RFL reduce the salary cap in real terms whilst pandering to Castleford and Hull KR.
I agree thoroughly!
Re: England Vs Samoa
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:44 pm
by jobo
moto748 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:37 pm
Feel for Waney. He wasn't on the pitch, we butchered chances and handed them some soft tries. Plus, Samoa were very good. Luai is some player.
This all the way. Players saved their worst for last.
Re: England Vs Samoa
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:45 pm
by Wintergreen
Caboosegg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:39 pm
Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:32 pm
Caboosegg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:25 pm
Really? so the really costly defensive errors are nothing to so with it?
Just Wanes team pick.
Semi final rugby and Watkins dropped the ball on a certain try. Dom Young dropped a simple catch, Radley gave a hospital pass which got intercepted.
None of these players have played badly but in test rugby errors like that are costly.
His game management.
Sorry your talking Wet. 3 Samao tries and the position for the drop goal came of individual errors. That wasn't game management. Micky Mac doesn't set a foot wrong in the game but you single his selection and Wane out.
Welsby knocked on in GP, Tomkins threw a forward pass maybe the shouldn't have been picked?
You don't think we dipped when McIllorum came back on? It's a view I suppose.....
Re: England Vs Samoa
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:51 pm
by ian.birchall
nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:15 pm
Radley is immense!
10/10 at 13 and now doing the business at 9.
You are joking! Very poor before he went off and then that superb offload interception try as well. I was annoyed that the BBC picked him as motm at Newcastle to show we needed an Australian in our side to win when for all money it was George Williams.
Was Skys/John Wilkins love child on the pitch today??
Re: England Vs Samoa
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:06 pm
by Caboosegg
Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:45 pm
Caboosegg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:39 pm
Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:32 pm
His game management.
Sorry your talking Wet. 3 Samao tries and the position for the drop goal came of individual errors. That wasn't game management. Micky Mac doesn't set a foot wrong in the game but you single his selection and Wane out.
Welsby knocked on in GP, Tomkins threw a forward pass maybe the shouldn't have been picked?
You don't think we dipped when McIllorum came back on? It's a view I suppose.....
It dipped when Burgess went off. What I find interesting is you putting it down to a player selection who played well, while others actually cost us the game.
Re: England Vs Samoa
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:09 pm
by moto748
I don't bag Welsby cos he's a Saints player, but where was he today? Not too many shone. The props were all pretty good, Whitehead and Herbie too. Makinson didn't do much wrong that I recall, and he kicked the goals.
Re: England Vs Samoa
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:11 pm
by widdenoldboy
Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:35 pm
fozzieskem wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:33 pm
Always felt this would be a tough,tough game best side won
Frankly if you took away the NRL players from the England team, we would have lost by 50.
Worrying for RL in this country and something to ponder the next time the RFL reduce the salary cap in real terms whilst pandering to Castleford and Hull KR.
Good point about intensity in the SL.
We played most of the game clunky, kept in it by individual efforts. Too many mistakes and poor game management....I'm resisting picking out individuals right now but that will come.
Re: England Vs Samoa
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:17 pm
by fozzieskem
moto748 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:09 pm
I don't bag Welsby cos he's a Saints player, but where was he today? Not too many shone. The props were all pretty good, Whitehead and Herbie too. Makinson didn't do much wrong that I recall, and he kicked the goals.
Well let’s just say he filled a shirt nothing more,this is what irritates me with RL coverage they anoint a player as the best thing since the last big thing but refuse to lay any criticism of said player there’s no balance at all,and that’s not just aimed at Welsby today it’s all “golden child”of the moment.