Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Got anything else on your mind that isn't about the Warriors? If you do, this is the place to post.
DaveO
Posts: 13955
Joined: Mon Sep 30, 2002 5:32 pm

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Post by DaveO » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:56 am

That pesky Irish border just won't go away.

It's now threatening the great Brexiteer prize of a trade deal with the USA.

https://news.sky.com/story/ministers-fe ... l-11628579

So not only are the EU telling the UK government not to renege on the Good Friday Agreement (GFA) , so is the US Congress.

This is what taking back control was all about, maintain the GFA or else.... :lol:

It was all going to be so simple wasn't it? It's great to watch our Brexiteer politicians come unstuck. Of course they are already blaming the EU. That tower of intellect Chris Grayling says if there is no deal it will be EU's fault. I wonder if he will blame the USA as well?

Caboosegg
Posts: 1342
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:51 pm

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Post by Caboosegg » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:31 pm

Regardless of which side anyone is on youve got to admit May is a joke.

One minute im reading shes going in hard to the EU aka No Deal no divorce money. Next minutes she back begging for admendments to the back stop.

I really wish she had let her Brexit minster and his team deal with this as her attempt to be a one woman powerhouse has turned it into a farce.
RL's biggest issue is the constant negativity of its own fans.

support verb [ (ENCOURAGE)

"to agree with and give encouragement to someone or something because you want him, her, or it to succeed"

Wandering Warrior
Posts: 3204
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:09 pm

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Post by Wandering Warrior » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:59 pm

I wonder who'll get the blame if the troubles kick off again? Heard there has been a few incidents recently in Derry/Londonderry.
What a right circus!
When John Byrom plays on snow, he doesn't leave any footprints - Jimmy Armfield

Wiganer Ted
Posts: 2234
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:31 pm

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Post by Wiganer Ted » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:42 pm

With May saying in NI that the Backstop won't be removed it could well bring about another heavy Commons defeat. Where we go from there seems anyone's guess.

SJ
Posts: 1052
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:46 pm

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Post by SJ » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:45 am

DaveO wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:56 am
That pesky Irish border just won't go away.

It's now threatening the great Brexiteer prize of a trade deal with the USA.

https://news.sky.com/story/ministers-fe ... l-11628579

So not only are the EU telling the UK government not to renege on the Good Friday Agreement (GFA) , so is the US Congress.

This is what taking back control was all about, maintain the GFA or else.... :lol:

It was all going to be so simple wasn't it? It's great to watch our Brexiteer politicians come unstuck. Of course they are already blaming the EU. That tower of intellect Chris Grayling says if there is no deal it will be EU's fault. I wonder if he will blame the USA as well?

Come on Dave. Drop the pretence. Your a rabid Brexiteer like your leader Jeremy😜😳😄

User avatar
medlocke
Posts: 7730
Joined: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:57 am
Contact:

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Post by medlocke » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:55 pm

Wiganer Ted wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:42 pm
With May saying in NI that the Backstop won't be removed it could well bring about another heavy Commons defeat. Where we go from there seems anyone's guess.
Have you given up on your 2nd referendum now Ted?, You've not mentioned it in a while :o :D

moto748
Posts: 2005
Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:30 pm

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Post by moto748 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:02 pm

medlocke wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:55 pm

Have you given up on your 2nd referendum now Ted?, You've not mentioned it in a while :o :D
Not looking likely now, is it? Just not enough support for it in the HoC.

SJ
Posts: 1052
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:46 pm

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Post by SJ » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:36 am

Isn't it time this topic is put to bed so to speak.
I repeat what I Have said on a number of occasions
The Topic is simply an hypothesis ,a prediction of a future state of affairs
The knowledge of what is involved in a future state of affairs depends on our ability ,when the time comes to decide,whether or not that state obtains.
This seems to me the only foolproof method of verifying the prediction
It certainly doesn't show that by simply envisaging a situation we have a clear unambiguous understanding of a future situation
Also the method of verification has a presupposition that the state of affairs continues over time. This has no logical guarantee This is important it seems to me and should act as a constraint on those people who are the incessant harbingers of doom.

SJ
Posts: 1052
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:46 pm

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Post by SJ » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:33 pm

medlocke wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:55 pm
Wiganer Ted wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:42 pm
With May saying in NI that the Backstop won't be removed it could well bring about another heavy Commons defeat. Where we go from there seems anyone's guess.
Have you given up on your 2nd referendum now Ted?, You've not mentioned it in a while :o :D
What do you think about having a referendum to have a referendum and a referendum to see if we want a referendum about a referendum to have a referendum and so on ad infinitum. 😎

Wandering Warrior
Posts: 3204
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:09 pm

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Post by Wandering Warrior » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:52 pm

Yes, put it to bed, some folk don't like it!
No need to comment SJ but you can't help yourself?
When John Byrom plays on snow, he doesn't leave any footprints - Jimmy Armfield

Post Reply