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Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:49 am
by Mike
josie andrews wrote:Where is Guy Fawkes when you need him?

The whole lot of them need getting rid of MP’s & the Lords & starting again without all the bloody radicals! What a bloody farce?
The brexiters *are* the radicals.

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Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:38 am
by josie andrews
Mike wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:49 am
josie andrews wrote:Where is Guy Fawkes when you need him?

The whole lot of them need getting rid of MP’s & the Lords & starting again without all the bloody radicals! What a bloody farce?
The brexiters *are* the radicals.

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You know what I mean Mike!

They’re like a pack of baying wolves in the HoP, I’ve no time for any of them! They’re all in it for the money & an easy ride for doing sod all! Not one of them can lie straight in bed & they’re all a load of freeloaders IMO

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:42 am
by Wandering Warrior
Just seen two Bolton MPs on BBC Green a Tory leaver and Quereshi a Labour remainer.
Both voted to reject May's deal for various reasons.
Green stated that May voted to extend A50 yet bringing back her deal to vote on again on Wednesday!
If she doesn't know what's she's doing what chance is there?
I've said all along and backed it up with my own questions to folk than one man's Brexit is different to another.
Here's three examples I can quote from guys in a hi tech industry that I'd expect to think about more seriously.
All voted leave.
Man 1 to get rid of all the wobble yeds.
Man 2 hope.
Man 3 to stpp T Tip.
All to me pretty stupid and ill thought out reasons. Ironically we could be much nearer to a T Tip type deal now than pre Brexit!
The whole circus is a complete cock up and as a remainer I say just get on with the whole affair and we'll then see how peoples' factless pre Brexit thoughts pan out.
Fortunately if there's any hits to take then they'll suffer same as me, however at least I can say I didn't choose it!!

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:38 am
by Caboosegg
So a second refferedum know we know what brexit actually means is called undemocratic but May basically holding the country hostage by putting the same deal forward a THIRD time, despite losing by large margins both times is acceptable.


I ask a Pro leave member of my team why he still thinks leave is the better option. He did the good old sov arguement. I emailed him the brexit white paper 😂

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:03 pm
by Wandering Warrior
Third vote fired off bout big changes!!
:lol:
It's begining to look alot like Christmas!! :D

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:15 pm
by fozzieskem
Wandering Warrior wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:03 pm
Third vote fired off bout big changes!!
:lol:
It's begining to look alot like Christmas!! :D
As it should be too, you can't keep voting on the same bill have it defeated heavily too and hope that blindly presenting it again it may scrape through, listening to Vine on radio 2 at dinnertime he had a tory MP saying he wasn't backing the bill so what was the point of even trying to present it again?

Well done Mr Bercow.

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:28 am
by DaveO
fozzieskem wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:15 pm
Wandering Warrior wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:03 pm
Third vote fired off bout big changes!!
:lol:
It's begining to look alot like Christmas!! :D
As it should be too, you can't keep voting on the same bill have it defeated heavily too and hope that blindly presenting it again it may scrape through, listening to Vine on radio 2 at dinnertime he had a tory MP saying he wasn't backing the bill so what was the point of even trying to present it again?

Well done Mr Bercow.
The whole exercise has been an attempt to subvert parliament ever since May became PM. We had the granting of Henry VIII's powers that meant parliament could be sidelined (particularly at the next stage of actually negotiating trade deals) all supposedly because it was a pragmatic way to get things done quickly. Anyone who believes it would not be used to ram through whatever the govt wanted without scrutiny is naive.

Then we had the govt held in contempt of parliament and withholding documents and research on flimsy excuses. Now we have had May pulling votes and deliberately running the clock down to try and blackmail MP's to back a deal they rejected.

In any sane period of our history the historic defeat of the first vote by 249 would have led to at least the PM resigning but more likely another election. At the very least it should have been back to the drawing board, not let's hope we can scare the MP's into backing it.

Brexit has not only brought out of the woodwork some very nasty people who now think it is OK to stoke up racism it has reduced parliament to a complete farce where people like Rees-Mogg are openly suggesting May asks the Queen to shut it down and so on. Many people had complete disdain for politics and politicians before the vote in 2016. If anyone has had their faith restored by what has gone on since I'd be amazed regardless of what side of the debate you are on.

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:59 pm
by ancientnloyal
How can this woman still be in a job? Makes Ian Lenegan and Shaun Edwards look like Mandela at the minute!

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:04 pm
by Caboosegg
A decision needs to be made....


It was you deal died twice but your still trying to get it through.

May has single handedly made Cameron look compitent in this mess.

Re: Why we will be worse off through Brexit (Question from other forum)

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:49 pm
by Wintergreen
In fairness it was always going to be a hospital pass, but she has made a complete shambles of the job.

Then again I don't believe anyone could have delivered whilst trying to "please all the people all the time".