Michael Foot Speech on Europe!

[SJ]

Just to clarify the issue of Sovereignty. in simplistic terms. When we became a member of the EU We entered into a What I describe as a Deontic arrangement It was and still is that to acquire membership we must accept the condition prescribed by the EU. We did so and thus our relationship became a Conditional Deontic relationship. This condition was that we would make EU
law our law by primary legislation-the European Communities Act. This condition gave us certain rights and bound us to certain obligations I won't rehease them here. But if anyone wishes they can access them by Google. NB we accepted the condition but it should not be interpreted as approval. We may have accepted the condition with open arms or grudgingly. Be that as it may we were under an obligation not to enact any legislation statutory instrument regulations that were inconsistent with EU laws and if we did so EU law would abrogate it
This clearly constrains our ability to amend or make laws more conducive to our needs over changing times Thus our sovereignty is curtailed in this respect. Hence leave the EU. To abrogate this impediment to our sovereignty.

[thegimble]

the 500k that joined were probably students because he promised to scrap tuition fees, something that will never happen no matter who's in power

He never said that.

Read again what he actually said. And stop reading Daily Mail as thats where you read what your saying he said..

[thegimble]

Agreed the 500k joined because of Corbyn.
When it comes to turnout at a GE those are small numbers.
Corbyn is getting it wrong on everything. Brexit, Salisbury, Syria and the UN then Anti Semitism. If he doesn't resign then he will lead them to a GE defeat.
Labour are 65 seats short of a majority and around 1.5m votes short.
Corbyn won't make up that deficit.
The EU rules on Nationalisation didn't apply to the East Coast Main Line as the Govy didn't invest any money in the Direct Rail Co or whatever it was called.
By the way the CEO of the Nationalised ECML Michael Holden said Nationalising the whole rail network would be a financial disaster. He should know!
I still reckon May will outwit him and beat him over Brexit and the next GE. There are far better people to lead Labour than Corbyn. If they want to win the next GE then they must replace Corbyn.

Salisbury was he wrong still actual evidence it was the Russian Government has not come out. Boris came out of that mess a lot worse than Corbyn did. We can not blame anyone without evidence.

Syria again was he wrong not to rush to judgement. Read into chemical attacks in Syria you will find out that its not just Assad who has used them there. Our so called allies there have used some. Was interesting the similarities in this city as others where Assad is taking over then a chemical attack happens.

We and our allies have a habit of creating issues abroad to attack that country Vietnam been the biggest one and Iraq a close second.

On Brexit May is in a lot more trouble than Corbyn she is a few months away from a Tory Civil war. Just hope its better than the Captain America one cause that one was crap.

[ian b]

the 500k that joined were probably students because he promised to scrap tuition fees, something that will never happen no matter who's in power

He never said that.

Read again what he actually said. And stop reading Daily Mail as thats where you read what your saying he said..
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your touchy, don't read papers they're all shite