We have all kept quiet long enough.

[we_need_a_coach]

:conf: What is going on, no new signings even though our current squad are dropping like flies, challenge cup deadline now come and gone, references to us obtaining the services of another French noname. MO silent apart from the stadium policing row, which I believe he handled very badly on behalf of the town, (we certainly won't get any support from the football side from now on). Betts just rolling out the same old cliches, 'we would have the best .......but for injuries'. St Helens seem to be able to obtain new players, as do Leeds, Bradford, Hull etc (even Leigh).
On sunday we where losing untill late on and where very lucky not to lose ! And I can see us struggling against the Broncos at the weekend.
we need some positive action from the Management, otherwise our crowds will continue to be demoralised and dwindle even more.
We are awakening to the fact that we are no longer in the top 4 in Super League, NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

[TomThumb]

SALARY CAP

At least 2 players on at least 250,000 a year, out of a budget of 1.8 million. you do the maths a make a squad of 20!!!! Times have chaged!!! get in the real world!!

I thought we were supposed to be supporters!!!!

The lads always have a bad start to the season!! just you wait, we will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season!!!

SING YOU HEARTS OUT, SING YOUR HEARTS OUT, SING YOUR HEARTS OUT FOR THE LADS!!!!!!!

[DaveO]

we_need_a_coach posted:
:conf: What is going on, no new signings even though our current squad are dropping like flies, challenge cup deadline now come and gone, references to us obtaining the services of another French noname. MO silent apart from the stadium policing row, which I believe he handled very badly on behalf of the town, (we certainly won't get any support from the football side from now on). Betts just rolling out the same old cliches, 'we would have the best .......but for injuries'. St Helens seem to be able to obtain new players, as do Leeds, Bradford, Hull etc (even Leigh).
On sunday we where losing untill late on and where very lucky not to lose ! And I can see us struggling against the Broncos at the weekend.
we need some positive action from the Management, otherwise our crowds will continue to be demoralised and dwindle even more.
We are awakening to the fact that we are no longer in the top 4 in Super League, NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Well I don't thik things are good enough either but I will take issue with you over a couple of things.

The policung saga is literally nothing to do with Wigan RL as we don't employ police at the ground.

Singing players. Saints could sign Anderson because Michael Smith left. They had a slot on their 20/20 and space under the salary cap. They would not have been able to do it had Smith not left.

With Farrell still a Wigan player Wigan can't sign a replacement. I am sure that is why Whelan has set the deadline.

Dave

[DaveO]

TomThumb posted:
SALARY CAP

At least 2 players on at least 250,000 a year, out of a budget of 1.8 million. you do the maths a make a squad of 20!!!! Times have chaged!!! get in the real world!!

Which two players are these? Saints have Long and Sculthorpe and they are supposed to earn £200K a year each.

Dave

[TomThumb]

Dave, I was making the point that wigan have two players on at least 250,000 out of a budget of 1.8 million, and that the times when wigan could just go out and buy players straight away have gone due to the salary cap restrictions...

[DaiJones]

If its "singing players" you want Dave O how about a revenge raid on some of my countrymen? Now Welsh caps are harder to come by than they used to be, I'm sure there'll be a few ready to come "oop north". Is Paul Anderson in fact 'Angry' Anderson then?

[thegimble]

DaiJones posted:
If its "singing players" you want Dave O how about a revenge raid on some of my countrymen? Now Welsh caps are harder to come by than they used to be, I'm sure there'll be a few ready to come "oop north". Is Paul Anderson in fact 'Angry' Anderson then?

What i saw on Sat (Tsunami aid match) sign Bombo he was incredible the best and most exciting union player ive seen since Tuigamalla. Big enough for secon row with the pace of a winger.

Obviously we wont but we need cover now and im sorry to say if Faz is going he needs to be gone asap. Hopefully we will get quality in either second row or centre or stand off.

[Fraggle]

TomThumb posted:
Dave, I was making the point that wigan have two players on at least 250,000 out of a budget of 1.8 million

Is this really true? Who are these two players? Given that's almost £100k/year more than Farrell's salary then perhaps that might explain his willingness to look at other alternatives. If an international captain, Man of Steel etc etc is paid so much less than some of his teammates then I can understand a bit of tension within the club.

[Fraggle]

we_need_a_coach posted:
MO silent apart from the stadium policing row, which I believe he handled very badly on behalf of the town, (we certainly won't get any support from the football side from now on).

Why would we want any support from them? Do we care?

St Helens seem to be able to obtain new players, as do Leeds, Bradford, Hull etc (even Leigh).

We've released a player and brought one in. To bring in new players we have to release others. I'm getting bored of this, but who are you going to release to bring in these new players? And who are the new players you're going to bring in? Other clubs are also releasing players to bring in new ones, no-one's doing anything different.

we need some positive action from the Management, otherwise our crowds will continue to be demoralised and dwindle even more.

What dwindling crowds? Season ticket sales continue to increaase, the South Stand has been made ticket-only due to high demand. I can't see any evidence of the fans deserting the club.

We are awakening to the fact that we are no longer in the top 4 in Super League, NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Evidence please. We finished 4th last season. That is a fact. Therefore we are in the top 4 in Super League. Ok, that isn't good enough, but your exaggerations are getting ridiculous.

[DaveO]

TomThumb posted:
Dave, I was making the point that wigan have two players on at least 250,000

Which two players are these? I don't think we have two players on that sort of wage.

Dave