Brian Noble Leaving?

[MrDave]

he told Fielden he was useless!

things can't be that bad can they. Noble loved Fielden it could be the end of a beautiful relationship

If Nobby is going, IL should approach John Kear,

I think John Kear is an excellent coach as well, he has done quiet a lot at Wakefield with pretty much nothing at all. At Hull he took them from a very average side to top six and Challenge Cup winners and lets face it Wigan are an average side these days.

Kear would defiantly not be back if Whealan was still Chairman but not sure what Ian Lenagan makes of him or some of the other Wigan fans for that matter.

[DaveO]

thats abit harsh, i thought fielden was one of our better players, but nobby didnt leave him on for long enough

I agree. And he left Coley on far too long!

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that changing room yesterday

If Noble thinks players are rubbish he must drop them. No point in saying they are rubbish and picking them the week after.

Dave

[GeoffN]

thats abit harsh, i thought fielden was one of our better players, but nobby didnt leave him on for long enough

I agree. And he left Coley on far too long!

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that changing room yesterday

If Noble thinks players are rubbish he must drop them. No point in saying they are rubbish and picking them the week after.

Dave

What worries me is the (alleged/rumoured/seeming!) fact that he can't spot who really is rubbish.

[highland convert]

Can't see it personally. Noble is out of contract at the end of season. The players we have are the players for the season. We have quality but no direction. It is the wrong time of the season to change. The good coaches are booked. Either you buy a coach and pay Noble off from his contract or you wait out your time. The team will click, the season will unfold and we will wn games. Everyone expected the genious of the players to gell immediately, it will not happen. Smith, Riddel, Roberts all played like they can and did. Last year players would have been there to follow through. They were passing into spaces that last year would have been filled. That co-ordination takes time. When it comes it will be good to watch. I would expect AR t be fullback this week. Mathers seems to be going down for at least two. From the radio commentry Roberts seemed to be hunting more towards FB than wing. Maybe Richie will be superseeded by the time his ban is through. KP will be back soon. There is an overstock of quality in the backs. During the season the best will come to the fore.
Jim

[KOOCH]

Can't see it personally. Noble is out of contract at the end of season. The players we have are the players for the season. We have quality but no direction. It is the wrong time of the season to change. The good coaches are booked. Either you buy a coach and pay Noble off from his contract or you wait out your time. The team will click, the season will unfold and we will wn games. Everyone expected the genious of the players to gell immediately, it will not happen. Smith, Riddel, Roberts all played like they can and did. Last year players would have been there to follow through. They were passing into spaces that last year would have been filled. That co-ordination takes time. When it comes it will be good to watch. I would expect AR t be fullback this week. Mathers seems to be going down for at least two. From the radio commentry Roberts seemed to be hunting more towards FB than wing. Maybe Richie will be superseeded by the time his ban is through. KP will be back soon. There is an overstock of quality in the backs. During the season the best will come to the fore.
Jim

Well said convert.The season is but one game old!And yes i agree sunday's game was depressing and painful to watch, but i do think we will see the quality of Roberts, Riddell,and Smith shine through.We are angry and hurting from the lack of passion displayed and looking for somebody to blame i.e. Mathers. Although i do seem to remember it being a team game.Blame the coach if anyone is to blame.He selected the team and made the game play.Good luck for the rest of the season lads.

[DaveO]

Can't see it personally. Noble is out of contract at the end of season. The players we have are the players for the season. We have quality but no direction. It is the wrong time of the season to change. The good coaches are booked. Either you buy a coach and pay Noble off from his contract or you wait out your time. The team will click, the season will unfold and we will wn games. Everyone expected the genious of the players to gell immediately, it will not happen. Smith, Riddel, Roberts all played like they can and did. Last year players would have been there to follow through. They were passing into spaces that last year would have been filled. That co-ordination takes time. When it comes it will be good to watch. I would expect AR t be fullback this week. Mathers seems to be going down for at least two. From the radio commentry Roberts seemed to be hunting more towards FB than wing. Maybe Richie will be superseeded by the time his ban is through. KP will be back soon. There is an overstock of quality in the backs. During the season the best will come to the fore.
Jim

The reason people are looking at rumours of Nobbies exit and even considering it desirable are that we have been saying what you posted above for the past two seasons and nothing of substance has come of it. We have been saying we have quality players for the past two seasons.

Roberts looks to be a quality player despite not such a great début. You could see that. Riddell was played off the park by Drew so we have to hope that is not typical but regardless of these players individual performances on Sunday and how good they are as individual players, it won't matter a jot unless Noble sorts out the way the team play in terms of tactics and selections.

Dave

[OAMJSONA]

Get rid of the 1/2 baked , chewing gum , ex cop

he as never nor will ever be good enuff to coach us

i agree with some comments that we will come good , because i sure do hope we do not play like that again this season


they never looked interested to me

[cpwigan]

Stephen Kearney - Head Coach, Andrew Farrel, Ruben Wiki - Assistant Coaches, use the remaining cap money to offer Owen Farrel a contract. Sam T at 7 Owen at 6 Tommy/McLlorum at 9 TSmith/piggy = The Priory

[GeoffN]

Can't see it personally. Noble is out of contract at the end of season. The players we have are the players for the season. We have quality but no direction. It is the wrong time of the season to change. The good coaches are booked. Either you buy a coach and pay Noble off from his contract or you wait out your time. The team will click, the season will unfold and we will wn games. Everyone expected the genious of the players to gell immediately, it will not happen. Smith, Riddel, Roberts all played like they can and did. Last year players would have been there to follow through. They were passing into spaces that last year would have been filled. That co-ordination takes time. When it comes it will be good to watch. I would expect AR t be fullback this week. Mathers seems to be going down for at least two. From the radio commentry Roberts seemed to be hunting more towards FB than wing. Maybe Richie will be superseeded by the time his ban is through. KP will be back soon. There is an overstock of quality in the backs. During the season the best will come to the fore.
Jim

The reason people are looking at rumours of Nobbies exit and even considering it desirable are that we have been saying what you posted above for the past two seasons and nothing of substance has come of it. We have been saying we have quality players for the past two seasons.

Roberts looks to be a quality player despite not such a great début. You could see that. Riddell was played off the park by Drew so we have to hope that is not typical but regardless of these players individual performances on Sunday and how good they are as individual players, it won't matter a jot unless Noble sorts out the way the team play in terms of tactics and selections.

Dave

Did you see his comments in today's WEP, Dave?

"We are building a foundation stone, though, and it is important that we recognise that.
"It is also very important that we recognise that there are some good teams in this competition and that we are not going to get our own way week in and week out.

Maybe so, but Wakefield aren't one of them. Neither are we, clearly.

"We are going to try to get our own way but the pressure within this group of players is to improve individually on what we achieved last year and find ourselves an element of consistency in our performances.
"It is down to the players to show up."


Yeah, but it's up to you to be getting the best out of them; that's a coach's job!

Aussie capture Mark Riddell was substituted on the half-hour and the hooker could do little to influence the result when he returned in the second period.

Noble added: "He wasn't on his own was he? There were a few candidates for 'non-man of the match', and we have to improve."


So put your money where your mouth is, and drop the ones who didn't perform.

I'm not holding my breath, though.

I'll be very surprised if we see many changes for Friday. I'd be willing to bet that if Mathers doesn't get banned, he'll be in the side - and even if he does get a ban, as he should, he'll be straight back in when it expires.

[DaveO]

Did you see his comments in today's WEP, Dave?

"We are building a foundation stone, though, and it is important that we recognise that.
"It is also very important that we recognise that there are some good teams in this competition and that we are not going to get our own way week in and week out.

Maybe so, but Wakefield aren't one of them. Neither are we, clearly.

No I hadn't seen it and I think the above comments are making me as mad as I was when I left the ground on Sunday!

There was a chap a few rows down from me who on the way out was saying "Well we can't win them all" as if we had just played a good game and had unluckily lost to a superior side. The fact we played a team considered in with no chance this season missing half its 1st choice players had obviously gone over his head. It seems like it has gone over Nobles as well.

And what is this building a foundation stone talk? How long does it take him to build a team? A decade?

"We are going to try to get our own way but the pressure within this group of players is to improve individually on what we achieved last year and find ourselves an element of consistency in our performances.
"It is down to the players to show up."


Yeah, but it's up to you to be getting the best out of them; that's a coach's job!

It was also the problem he should of addressed last year. It isn't a new problem with the team but the same problem as last year. If we tank Hull it won't mean we have solved anything because on past form we would then probably lose to Cas the week after. This is what we saw last season too often and back then we never knew what to expect in terms of what team would turn up. We are none the wiser this season after Sunday.

So put your money where your mouth is, and drop the ones who didn't perform.

I'm not holding my breath, though.

I'll be very surprised if we see many changes for Friday. I'd be willing to bet that if Mathers doesn't get banned, he'll be in the side - and even if he does get a ban, as he should, he'll be straight back in when it expires.

If Mathers is banned it will be Goulding in and Phelps on the wing. If he isn't banned the only change I'd expect is O'Carroll to be dropped for Prescott (which might happen anyway) such is my lack of faith in his selection policy.

Dave