we need a new stadium

[we need a stadium]

When will we get from under Whelan and stand proud as a rugby club, not an also ran for a local pub club? :exc:

All the confusion regarding the football is disturbing the players

[davewarrior]

:eusa17: where's the dosh gonna come from

[mrs_carney]

Oooh we need a stadium, a relation of WNAC perhaps?

[Doveoverdave]

I can sometimes concur with WNAC but what's wrong with the stadia?
I loved the old place but it was getting a bit of a tip. At least at the JJB you can do all he things you used to do, arrive early, down a couple of pints, eat the local dish (have a pie)and use the facilities without getting wet when it rained.
Happy days.

[MrsLam]

we need a stadium posted:
When will we get from under Whelan and stand proud as a rugby club, not an also ran for a local pub club? :exc:

All the confusion regarding the football is disturbing the players

What confusion? There is none

[Fraggle]

we need a stadium posted:
All the confusion regarding the football is disturbing the players

I know it's hard for those footballers, they get easily confused. They'll be under some illusion that they'll be playing Manchester United, Chelski and Arsenal next...

[we_need_a_coach]

I agree with this thread, as I have posted before, the rise of a town or cities football team into the Prem, usually sees the rugby team going in the other direction, and visa versa.
Leeds,
Bradford,
Hull,
to name 3.

Loyalties and ties to the stadiums, ownership issues, press coverage, crowd demography, clashes of matches, training facilites etc.

It has already started for us, our coverage in the press, on the radio and TV, Whelan has made it perfectly clear where his time and money will be spent, and it's not on the Warriors. He has even openly stated that he is willing to sell.

Our new training facility at John Rigby colledge is good, but this just masks the fact that the Warriors have now lost the Gym under the East Stand, this has now been ripped out in preperation for Latics new requirements of hospitality next season, the Warriors will not now train on the JJB pitch, only on match days will they be allowed onto the pitch, on the other hand the Latics WILL train on the pitch once a week. ( it is paramount that a team practices on the home playing surface, this gives them an edge on match days.

These changes send out a message to our players, one which IMO tells them they are now 2nd Class citizens, and will be tollerated only on match days,

It's time for change for the Warriors, New owners, Chairman and coach, would cause disruption for a couple of seasons, but I'm sure this would be acceptable, as long as the Warriors fans could see the plan for the future.
Whereas currently we are at our lowest ebb for decades, with no direction, and very little hope of change under the current incumbants.
Lets just say the Latics consolidate in the Prem, and we have not been sold by DW and Doris and Betts are stll stumbling from one disaster to another, the Warriors will find it harder and harder to make the necessarry changes and improvement, to compete in the SL at the level the fans require....I wonder what would happen then ???????

Change is needed NOW !!!!!

[DaveO]

we_need_a_coach posted:

I agree with this thread, as I have posted before, the rise of a town or cities football team into the Prem, usually sees the rugby team going in the other direction, and visa versa.
Leeds,
Bradford,
Hull,
to name 3.

Loyalties and ties to the stadiums, ownership issues, press coverage, crowd demography, clashes of matches, training facilites etc.

What ar eyou on about now?

Leeds Rugby and Leeds Utd are two completely seperate entities playing at different grounds. Hull have never been a top flight club and Bradford City and the Bulls only shared a ground on a temporary basis while Odsal had some work done on it.

The links between the three clubs you mention are tenuous and what is more it is the football club that has "suffered" in all the above examples. Well I say suffered but their misfortunes have absolutely nothing to do with the popularity of RL in those areas.

It has already started for us, our coverage in the press, on the radio and TV, Whelan has made it perfectly clear where his time and money will be spent, and it's not on the Warriors. He has even openly stated that he is willing to sell.

No, he said they would look at offers and it was up to ML decide. If someone offered to buy Leeds of Hethrington he would look at the offer as well.

Our new training facility at John Rigby colledge is good, but this just masks the fact that the Warriors have now lost the Gym under the East Stand, this has now been ripped out in preperation for Latics new requirements of hospitality next season, the Warriors will not now train on the JJB pitch, only on match days will they be allowed onto the pitch, on the other hand the Latics WILL train on the pitch once a week. ( it is paramount that a team practices on the home playing surface, this gives them an edge on match days.

Are you making this up or do you know ot for a fact? In any case training on the JJB pitch for Rugby doesn't sound the brightest of ideas to me.

These changes send out a message to our players, one which IMO tells them they are now 2nd Class citizens, and will be tollerated only on match days,

Rubbish. Unless you are blind you can't have missed the improvements off-field at Wigan RL. Improved club web-site, better marketing with new staff involved etc.

It's time for change for the Warriors, New owners, Chairman and coach, would cause disruption for a couple of seasons, but I'm sure this would be acceptable, as long as the Warriors fans could see the plan for the future.
Whereas currently we are at our lowest ebb for decades, with no direction, and very little hope of change under the current incumbants.
Lets just say the Latics consolidate in the Prem, and we have not been sold by DW and Doris and Betts are stll stumbling from one disaster to another, the Warriors will find it harder and harder to make the necessarry changes and improvement, to compete in the SL at the level the fans require....I wonder what would happen then ???????

Change is needed NOW !!!!!

I don't know why I have bothere to reply to this because it is paranoid nonsense.

We don't need a new stadium, simple as that.

Dave

[Carneys angel]

ahh yet again someone else with the samr outlook as wnac, or is it just the same person, all very fishy! :doz:

[we_need_a_coach]

DaveO posted:

we_need_a_coach posted:

I agree with this thread, as I have posted before, the rise of a town or cities football team into the Prem, usually sees the rugby team going in the other direction, and visa versa.
Leeds,
Bradford,
Hull,
to name 3.

Loyalties and ties to the stadiums, ownership issues, press coverage, crowd demography, clashes of matches, training facilites etc.

What ar eyou on about now?

Leeds Rugby and Leeds Utd are two completely seperate entities playing at different grounds. Hull have never been a top flight club and Bradford City and the Bulls only shared a ground on a temporary basis while Odsal had some work done on it.

The links between the three clubs you mention are tenuous and what is more it is the football club that has "suffered" in all the above examples. Well I say suffered but their misfortunes have absolutely nothing to do with the popularity of RL in those areas.

It has already started for us, our coverage in the press, on the radio and TV, Whelan has made it perfectly clear where his time and money will be spent, and it's not on the Warriors. He has even openly stated that he is willing to sell.

No, he said they would look at offers and it was up to ML decide. If someone offered to buy Leeds of Hethrington he would look at the offer as well.

Our new training facility at John Rigby colledge is good, but this just masks the fact that the Warriors have now lost the Gym under the East Stand, this has now been ripped out in preperation for Latics new requirements of hospitality next season, the Warriors will not now train on the JJB pitch, only on match days will they be allowed onto the pitch, on the other hand the Latics WILL train on the pitch once a week. ( it is paramount that a team practices on the home playing surface, this gives them an edge on match days.

Are you making this up or do you know ot for a fact? In any case training on the JJB pitch for Rugby doesn't sound the brightest of ideas to me.

These changes send out a message to our players, one which IMO tells them they are now 2nd Class citizens, and will be tollerated only on match days,

Rubbish. Unless you are blind you can't have missed the improvements off-field at Wigan RL. Improved club web-site, better marketing with new staff involved etc.

It's time for change for the Warriors, New owners, Chairman and coach, would cause disruption for a couple of seasons, but I'm sure this would be acceptable, as long as the Warriors fans could see the plan for the future.
Whereas currently we are at our lowest ebb for decades, with no direction, and very little hope of change under the current incumbants.
Lets just say the Latics consolidate in the Prem, and we have not been sold by DW and Doris and Betts are stll stumbling from one disaster to another, the Warriors will find it harder and harder to make the necessarry changes and improvement, to compete in the SL at the level the fans require....I wonder what would happen then ???????

Change is needed NOW !!!!!

I don't know why I have bothere to reply to this because it is paranoid nonsense.

We don't need a new stadium, simple as that.

Dave[/q
:doz:
There's always a first time, and this is the first time I've disagreed with you DaveO.

It may be paranoid, but I'm quoting a worst case senario, and looking at our season so far, I think it's fair to say that 'worst case' is the only way to look at it.

I am sincere in what i say, i really do believe that unless there is a change at the warriors, things are looking bleak.

Now Doris has signed an Australian who will be 32, yes 32 when he arrives in Wigan, I'm sorry but this is'nt progress, Doris just has'nt learned from his mistakes.