Ryan Hall

[Kittwazzer]

Curious as to why anyone thinks that a player signing a 5 year contract means he won't be joining the NRL next year or the year after!

[DaveO]

Curious as to why anyone thinks that a player signing a 5 year contract means he won't be joining the NRL next year or the year after!

Hall's new deal has been signed to fend off interest now. It's a contract extension in the face of enquiries for his services.

So instead of saying "how much" Hethrington has persuaded him to stay.

[DaveO]

H would of been happy to stay if we paid him far more than he was worth, yes that's true since he left because he put his family's financial future first. He wasn't worth the extra money so he made the right decision for him, he hasn't been missed and he was never this mythical leader people on here now paint him as. Bateman has already shown he has far more potential than H ever had and Clubb who'll never be a fans favourite is performing just as well.
Once this team settles in and the defensive tightens up we'll do well

H is s worth what the market commands. Same as any player. You can decide if you want to pay the market price or not for a player of his quality. We chose not to but unlike the players going to the NRL it was well within the clubs finances to do so. So you have to ask with all that money and cap space why on earth you would even think of sanctioning a move.

So then it boils down to how you replace such a player and as you point out we have one player with potential and Clubb.

It stands out like a sore thumb that neither of them have plugged the hole in the right side left by H.

Batemen is not and probably never will be the defensive player H is. He has the potential to be very good in other ways but he doesn't address the needs of the side at the moment. Wane has also said he doesn't want to play him week in week out. It will be interesting to see if the fact Clubb isn't up to the job in the back row means that plan goes out of the window.

And Clubb is not "performing just as well". Not even close. He has gone all right at prop but completely lacks the mobility to do the job required in the back row.

The problems down the right all emanate from that side of the back row were we sold high and bought low (or inexperienced).

[Owd Codger]

Too easy to blame IL, the players have left because they wanted to not because IL was after the money. Plus I think you'll find when it comes to who comes and goes Shaun Wane makes that call, only a fool would think otherwise. If you don't want to be part of his plans he'll find someone who does, not seen Shaun cry about any player leaving.
This club is in a healthy state under IL and we are winning things, no one is asking you to like him since you aren't part of the club no matter what you like to believe.

It is nothing to do with liking IL or not so don't start down that road. I am pointing out some actual facts by contrasting what has gone on at Leeds and what happens at our club.



Hethrington has retained his best player who is top quality and IL has sold several of quality at Wigan. They wanted to leave? Well why didn't Hall want to leave Leeds? When our players leave it's supposed to be impossible to keep them in the face of big money offers from elsewhere.

No, this is IL's problem. H would have been happy to stay and at Leeds Hethrington has headed off interest from NRL sides (and supposedly us as well) for Hall by persuading him his future is at Leeds.

The fact of the matter is Leeds have had a settled side for years and yet again we start the season with a new one.

The excuse for that this time was it was impossible to hold onto quality players in the face of the NRL salary cap or RU's money. Well Hall disproves that.

As to players wanting to leave themselves, it is part of IL's job to persuade them otherwise. Hethrington (who I really can't stand) can do it at Leeds so it is up IL to do it here.

By the latter, do we take it that perhaps nobody in the NRL or Union wants many of the Leeds players, especially as some are now getting a bit long in the tooth.

By the way does your use of the word H stand for Hansen or Hero!

The latter judging by your continual harping on about him going!

Finally, Hall may have signed a five year contract but that means nothing these days, ask Sam.

[Kittwazzer]

Curious as to why anyone thinks that a player signing a 5 year contract means he won't be joining the NRL next year or the year after!

Hall's new deal has been signed to fend off interest now. It's a contract extension in the face of enquiries for his services.

So instead of saying "how much" Hethrington has persuaded him to stay.

No he hasn't. He's just put the price up. If the NRL wants a player and the player wants to go, no-one will stop him, least of all Hetherington!

[AndyNick]

Terms of contracts are pretty meaningless, as we are only too aware. Remember, Sam Tomkins isn't allowed to talk to any NRL clubs until the end of this season.......

[thegimble]

Terms of contracts are pretty meaningless, as we are only too aware. Remember, Sam Tomkins isn't allowed to talk to any NRL clubs until the end of this season.......

So which NRL side will Sam go to. WAIT a second hes gone are contracts really going to be honored or is it a better bargaining chip down the line.

[TrueBlueWarrior]

DaveO can you just answer a couple of questions for me please..........

1. How many NRL clubs tabled an offer for Ryan Hall?
2. Did or does Ryan Hall want to go to the NRL?

Unless you know the answers then your argument is pointless, I am assuming you don't know the answers!!

(By the way MM has just signed 4 years with us, I am led to believe he had interest from the NRL. However, maybe no NRL teams were actually interested and also he might not want to go to the NRL.)

[Kaii]

TrueBlueWarrior how dare you think that a player might be happy at the club he plays for, they all want to move 13,000 miles away and play for a team they have no connection or love for.
Loyalty has no place in this sport

[Panchitta Marra]

To also think that all players signing a new 4 year SL contract and still not have aspirations to move to the NRL is like burying your head in the sand.