Wane like any coach knows what is required to win games. Unfortunately, he does not know how to consistently transfer those universal objectives into outcomes.
Wane made no bad decisions last night, in fact every decision he made was the right one and his strategy is perfect. It breaks down due to players not the coach and it breaks down due to match officials not the coach.
Whelley Warrior wrote:Another result made in heaven for cpwigan!
Wane has a lot to do with catching him up on perfection.
p.s. Maguire breaking no pots either so far this season but a bit quite on that.
Maguire / Souths had an identical record to last season when IIRC they won the GF
I take ZERO satisfaction from seeing Wigan lose, least of all to SAINTS. Results matter to me, far more than some it seems.
Souths led the table for most of the season. Perhaps the loss of Sam Burgess has been the difference this season or has the novelty of a new Coach in Maguire wearing off?
ddtftf wrote:Simple Burges to fullback and Manfriedy on the wing, Burges is superb under a high ball and has an eye for an opening from the fullback position.JOB FIXED, CAN I BE THE COACH.
IF sw HAD KEPT DRIVING THE FORWARDS THROUGH THE MIDDLE THE SPACES WOULD HAVE DEVELOPED OUT WIDE.
Ouote from Wane "There are other areas I'm just as upset about," said Wigan coach Shaun Wane. "It was a poor team performance and it's a tough one to deal with.
"We just didn't play in the right areas of the field.
"It was an awful performance, we just never got into an arm wrestle and came up with silly errors and penalties. I'm really disappointed that we didn't challenge them in any area today. Not in the right areas of the field ..arm wrestle? are the players listing to Wane? answers please.
Are the players listening? Simples, no! He needs to shake them up by dropping a few. Some players get picked come what may, this is a business were results matter and those not performing should be on the long drive to Workington. The likes of Smith, Powell, Bowen to name but three have been pretty average all season and their places should be under threat.
Winning is down to 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration - Shaun Edwards
lcharnock2 wrote:It's pretty simple for me. When you gift the opposition 18 points from dropping the ball on your own line and they pounce on it, it's not your day. In addition, missing 36 tackles and completing at 40% in the second half, we would have struggled to beat any SL side. I was very encouraged by the first half hour, we played well and moved saints around the pitch well.
I don't think we'll get a performance like that again in a big game, everything went saints way. Also to mention Silverwood; he was terrible for Wigan last night. He missed a blatant charge off the ball by LMS on Sarginson contesting a high kick and then saints go up the other end and put a grubber in and they score but they're offside! Big momentum changer. Wane can't plan for his players giving possibly the best team in the comp 18 points leg up! The only criticism I'd have of him was playing Powell last night, he did play well v Hudds but as saw at magic v Leeds, spelling Lockers for 10 mins while MM has a rest is the way to go.
The other momentum changer was that we should have kicked a penalty goal when we were 6-0 up (we mustn't have much confidence in Smith)instead we tap the ball and produce a forward pass! Now why hindsight is a great thing, but we need to remember that we had a very short turnaround this week compared to Saints and therefore we should have been trying to slow the game down and eek out any points that came our way. Rugby League is not rocket science.
Winning is down to 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration - Shaun Edwards
cpwigan wrote:Sam P tells Wane he is a great coach, that bot is going nowhere as long as Wane is coach.
Mistake letting Logan go to Salford. In my opinion a far better sub hooker than Powell.
That's because Logan is a Hooker whereas Sam is a Scrum Half who can play Hooker.
Now if Logan could cover for Hooker and Scrum Half in a team selection like Rob Burrow, he would be first choice and not at Salford.
Sad situation in my book!
p.s. We have the same situation with Hughes and Patrick. Hughes can play both Centre and Back Row, but Patrick can only play Back Row.
I am sure that Bowen can cover at prop or Tautai can play wing but that is no basis to make the decision. It should be the best man for the job. If our tactics are to sub MM then we should be replacing him with a hooker. Don't get dragged in by Waney's comment that Powell can cover more than one position compared to Logan, this is all about favouritism and when you introduce that into your decision making in professional sport you are on to a loser. Do you think that the other players don't know, or understand, what is going on? Do you not think that these daft decisions affect them and their performance?
We still have the talent to win this comp but somebody needs to get a grip.
Winning is down to 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration - Shaun Edwards
TedMac wrote:You can have all the muscle and brawn you want but if you play with no composure and less-than-no-brain, you will NEVER be the top team. A rag-tag bunch of brain-dead muscle men. Wane has to take the blame this time.
No matter how tough the game is, the top Aussie teams keep their heads, stay patient and wait for their opportunities. We approached the game in the wrong way and fell to pieces when faced with adversity - not the recipe for beating our deadliest enemies.
Fed up, disappointed, at times disgusted.
Well said Ted, an NRL approach would have butchered Saints last night, instead we are all moaning about another poor loss to our deadliest rivals. Saints are top of the comp, but not a good team - and that is not sour grapes! We had them on the ropes in the first quarter and we were either not patient enough or we did not have the desired level of skill to open the door (we need a much more creative player than Smith). We should have kicked them to death last night, the last thing there forwards want to be doing is traipsing 40 to 50 metres back down field, we should have sucked the energy out of their big guys far quicker. Instead we brought them into their comfort zone by producing error after error in our own red zone! When are we going to learn that there is a simpler and more efficient way to win rugby games?
Winning is down to 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration - Shaun Edwards
cpwigan wrote:Wane like any coach knows what is required to win games. Unfortunately, he does not know how to consistently transfer those universal objectives into outcomes.
Wane made no bad decisions last night, in fact every decision he made was the right one and his strategy is perfect. It breaks down due to players not the coach and it breaks down due to match officials not the coach.
REMEMBER, WANE IS PERFECT!!!! :eusa15:
When did anyone say Wane is perfect?
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