The most complete 40 minutes ever ?

[cpwigan]

I have seen Wigan v much poorer teams back in the day BUT NEVER have I see such a complete 40 as that by the Rabbitohs v the Roosters. Clinical, largely mistake free, some brilliant line defence, astute penalty concessions to keep a 0 score. Wane can only dream, no Waneball nonsense.

[Wiganer Ted]

Come on CPWigan, there's me thinking it was your New Year Resolution not to mention "Waneball".
Mind you if it was you've done well getting into March.

[cpwigan]

Come on CPWigan, there's me thinking it was your New Year Resolution not to mention "Waneball".
Mind you if it was you've done well getting into March.

I try Ted I have to say that 40 was my idea of RL heaven.

[The Eclipse]

I have seen Wigan v much poorer teams back in the day BUT NEVER have I see such a complete 40 as that by the Rabbitohs v the Roosters. Clinical, largely mistake free, some brilliant line defence, astute penalty concessions to keep a 0 score. Wane can only dream, no Waneball nonsense.

CP I personally think Madge Maquire would've been a much better choice as England coach than Bennett.

[Owd Codger]

Come on CPWigan, there's me thinking it was your New Year Resolution not to mention "Waneball".
Mind you if it was you've done well getting into March.

I try Ted I have to say that 40 was my idea of RL heaven.

What, even better than in the days of Jack Gibson?

[nathan_rugby]

Haven't seen it but trust your opinion.

When we played Warrington a couple of seasons ago in the play offs and won with Williams at hooker, that for me was a complete game of rugby by Wigan. Best I have seen us play under Wane against good opposition.

[cpwigan]

I have seen Wigan v much poorer teams back in the day BUT NEVER have I see such a complete 40 as that by the Rabbitohs v the Roosters. Clinical, largely mistake free, some brilliant line defence, astute penalty concessions to keep a 0 score. Wane can only dream, no Waneball nonsense.

CP I personally think Madge Maquire would've been a much better choice as England coach than Bennett.

Possibly. Do you not think Madge is a 'club' coach though in terms of needing to work with players day out, day in to get his ideas across and into practice. WB has done Rep at Origin. I am not sure how much time he will spend on the job though in terms of looking for the right players beyond what he already knows.

One irk I have is how NRL kids come through much quicker / better than here. Yet, we know the very best England juniors can compete / beat the very best Aus juniors. So somewhere, Aus juniors end up in the fast lane and ours are stuck in the stop start middle line.

WW - The quality of the Roosters is what made the Rabbitohs victory special IMO.

[Mike]

I have seen Wigan v much poorer teams back in the day BUT NEVER have I see such a complete 40 as that by the Rabbitohs v the Roosters. Clinical, largely mistake free, some brilliant line defence, astute penalty concessions to keep a 0 score. Wane can only dream, no Waneball nonsense.

CP I personally think Madge Maquire would've been a much better choice as England coach than Bennett.

Possibly. Do you not think Madge is a 'club' coach though in terms of needing to work with players day out, day in to get his ideas across and into practice. WB has done Rep at Origin. I am not sure how much time he will spend on the job though in terms of looking for the right players beyond what he already knows.

One irk I have is how NRL kids come through much quicker / better than here. Yet, we know the very best England juniors can compete / beat the very best Aus juniors. So somewhere, Aus juniors end up in the fast lane and ours are stuck in the stop start middle line.

WW - The quality of the Roosters is what made the Rabbitohs victory special IMO.

Its like Wigan used to be - if you bring youngsters into an environment of excellence then even lesser players strive to become excellent very quickly. If you bring them into mediocrity then only the very best even bother being better than those that surround them. The NRL has a higher standard first team environment so their juniors continue to progress to meet that standard. Ours stop short when their standard is high enough for SL, and they pick up all the little habits and culture along the way. In the glory days at Wigan we brought a conveyor belt of youngsters through. I don't think they were any better than the kids today but the environment they come into certainly is different.

[Owd Codger]

CP I personally think Madge Maquire would've been a much better choice as England coach than Bennett.

Possibly. Do you not think Madge is a 'club' coach though in terms of needing to work with players day out, day in to get his ideas across and into practice. WB has done Rep at Origin. I am not sure how much time he will spend on the job though in terms of looking for the right players beyond what he already knows.

One irk I have is how NRL kids come through much quicker / better than here. Yet, we know the very best England juniors can compete / beat the very best Aus juniors. So somewhere, Aus juniors end up in the fast lane and ours are stuck in the stop start middle line.

WW - The quality of the Roosters is what made the Rabbitohs victory special IMO.

Its like Wigan used to be - if you bring youngsters into an environment of excellence then even lesser players strive to become excellent very quickly. If you bring them into mediocrity then only the very best even bother being better than those that surround them. The NRL has a higher standard first team environment so their juniors continue to progress to meet that standard. Ours stop short when their standard is high enough for SL, and they pick up all the little habits and culture along the way. In the glory days at Wigan we brought a conveyor belt of youngsters through. I don't think they were any better than the kids today but the environment they come into certainly is different.

They were indeed Mike, prior to 1996, introduced into a envviroment of clubs full of better class quality International players which included players at their peak from down under and top class Union players, mostly from South Wales who came into our game for the money.

Now the boot is on the other foot and our game is now the poor relation where money is concerned in both Union and the NRL and as a result it now can only attract the odd one or so decent players from Union and only rookies, fringe players and those past their best from the NRL.

Sad, but true!

[cpwigan]

CP I personally think Madge Maquire would've been a much better choice as England coach than Bennett.

Possibly. Do you not think Madge is a 'club' coach though in terms of needing to work with players day out, day in to get his ideas across and into practice. WB has done Rep at Origin. I am not sure how much time he will spend on the job though in terms of looking for the right players beyond what he already knows.

One irk I have is how NRL kids come through much quicker / better than here. Yet, we know the very best England juniors can compete / beat the very best Aus juniors. So somewhere, Aus juniors end up in the fast lane and ours are stuck in the stop start middle line.

WW - The quality of the Roosters is what made the Rabbitohs victory special IMO.

Its like Wigan used to be - if you bring youngsters into an environment of excellence then even lesser players strive to become excellent very quickly. If you bring them into mediocrity then only the very best even bother being better than those that surround them. The NRL has a higher standard first team environment so their juniors continue to progress to meet that standard. Ours stop short when their standard is high enough for SL, and they pick up all the little habits and culture along the way. In the glory days at Wigan we brought a conveyor belt of youngsters through. I don't think they were any better than the kids today but the environment they come into certainly is different.

It is an excellent answer. It even applies to coaching too. Noble being a great example and Madge showing the level it should be.