Looks like Sam Powell as starting hooker this season

[Caboosegg]

could somebody who knows about stats maybe post a list featuring MM, SP, Roby and 2 or 3 other current SL Hookers, then maybe that would end the argument

really would it? due to injury we can't compare last season and if we go of 2015 you could argue the SP hadnt developed enough to compare.

but

MM 2015 stats (when he played split with SP)

Tries:2
Tries assist:6
Tackle:688
Metres Made:1243
AG:5.84



SP 2015

Tries:1
Tries assist:2
Tackle:422
Metres Made:446
AG:4.29

SP 2016 (when he played alot more than MM the year before)

Tries:6
Tries assist:3
Tackle:1120
Metres Made:515
AG:4.67

[Wormburner]

could somebody who knows about stats maybe post a list featuring MM, SP, Roby and 2 or 3 other current SL Hookers, then maybe that would end the argument

really would it? due to injury we can't compare last season and if we go of 2015 you could argue the SP hadnt developed enough to compare.

but

MM 2015 stats (when he played split with SP)

Tries:2
Tries assist:6
Tackle:688
Metres Made:1243
AG:5.84



SP 2015

Tries:1
Tries assist:2
Tackle:422
Metres Made:446
AG:4.29

SP 2016 (when he played alot more than MM the year before)

Tries:6
Tries assist:3
Tackle:1120
Metres Made:515
AG:4.67

maybe overall career would be better

[Peet_1987]

could somebody who knows about stats maybe post a list featuring MM, SP, Roby and 2 or 3 other current SL Hookers, then maybe that would end the argument

really would it? due to injury we can't compare last season and if we go of 2015 you could argue the SP hadnt developed enough to compare.

but

MM 2015 stats (when he played split with SP)

Tries:2
Tries assist:6
Tackle:688
Metres Made:1243
AG:5.84



SP 2015

Tries:1
Tries assist:2
Tackle:422
Metres Made:446
AG:4.29

SP 2016 (when he played alot more than MM the year before)

Tries:6
Tries assist:3
Tackle:1120
Metres Made:515
AG:4.67

maybe overall career would be better

from the 2016 stats it looks like SP did most of our packs tackling (which is probs true) and he played more minutes than he may normally would. This could impact on his running game and looking at 2016 stats it did, this in my opinion is his best atribute - he is a great impact number 9 rather than a starting one.

[Caboosegg]

from the 2016 stats it looks like SP did most of our packs tackling (which is probs true) and he played more minutes than he may normally would. This could impact on his running game and looking at 2016 stats it did, this in my opinion is his best atribute - he is a great impact number 9 rather than a starting one.

this is were stats fail though, SP was in the main a 80 min hooker in 2016,

both were 40 min hookers in 2015, that would suggest to me that is MM played 80 he would have better stats than SP, but again you can't prove that.


lots of people had issues with SP last season and he certainly earned his strips but i don't understand this sudden MM isnt worthy to tie his shoe laces approach,

they are both different style hookers, my preference is MM but i can see having both as the Boon it is

[ian.birchall]

But for me last season proved that one hooker, whoever it is, can play 80 minutes which frees up an interchange spot, come back Nicky Kiss or even Bill Sayer.

[Panchitta Marra]

And me.

+3

Add my name to that list. Although I think it is only right that Micky has to oust Sam.

I fully agree with that too SEFC, it's Sam Powell's position for me based on last season.
I don't think Mac will back down unless his injury forces him to.

[Wandering Warrior]

But for me last season proved that one hooker, whoever it is, can play 80 minutes which frees up an interchange spot, come back Nicky Kiss or even Bill Sayer.

Are you serious?
Sayer was 50 years ago and Kiss 30.
That was then, we are talking now! Get real for God's sake.
Generally top clubs have interchange at hooker.

[wall_of_voodoo]

But for me last season proved that one hooker, whoever it is, can play 80 minutes which frees up an interchange spot, come back Nicky Kiss or even Bill Sayer.

Generally top clubs have interchange at hooker.

Ok you claim so back that up!

Name all the teams who regularly use one of their bench spots for a dedicated hooking replacement?

I remember reading a book with comments from Ricky Stuart, during an ashes series the then coach was seriously considering dropping Gary Schofield from the team. The Aussies WANTED him to play, knew his weaknesses. So they made big media noises about " how good Schoefield was" and "the Aussies would never consider dropping him". He played and the result was what the Aussies wanted


Does everyone understand the allegory here? Just because two ex players with links at rival clubs claim MM should play, do you not wonder why they would say that? More to the point what their currents clubs must think of them wanting to face such a "legend" on the behest of Morley and co

Don't get me wrong. I want MM to play, but not walk into the side as though last year never happened and we as a team need to start considering his 20 minute by the clock stint every match again

[FWarrior]

Warrington, Leeds

[Wandering Warrior]

And Hull.