Disappointing

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Re: Disappointing

Post by josie andrews » Mon May 13, 2019 12:49 pm

Exiled Wiganer wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:45 pm
Am I alone in not being ecstatic about the performance? This was as good as we have seen from Lam’s team, and it wasn’t nearly as good as it should have been. Sure, we came close, but it is yet another loss - we have lost every significant game this year. If, as seems likely, we lose Williams for at least a couple of months, we will be looking at this loss as the high point of the season by the time he is back.

I was staggered to hear Lam suggest we would be really good in another 6 weeks time. We have 5 games away from home in the meantime. With less structure and judging by our season as a whole, by the time we finally see the team play well the top 5 will be gone.

The players’ efforts cannot be faulted, but I have seen nothing at all from Lam to suggest we will have anything to play for by the time he thinks we might be playing well.
Yes! 😠 if you cannot see a massive improvement in that display, you must have been watching something else!
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Re: Disappointing

Post by Mickw » Mon May 13, 2019 1:23 pm

Exiled Wiganer wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:45 pm
Am I alone in not being ecstatic about the performance? This was as good as we have seen from Lam’s team, and it wasn’t nearly as good as it should have been. Sure, we came close, but it is yet another loss - we have lost every significant game this year. If, as seems likely, we lose Williams for at least a couple of months, we will be looking at this loss as the high point of the season by the time he is back.

I was staggered to hear Lam suggest we would be really good in another 6 weeks time. We have 5 games away from home in the meantime. With less structure and judging by our season as a whole, by the time we finally see the team play well the top 5 will be gone.

The players’ efforts cannot be faulted, but I have seen nothing at all from Lam to suggest we will have anything to play for by the time he thinks we might be playing well.
whilst most of that maybe true as I keep saying it's hardly lams fault ,its lenegan running wigan like a championship club .
Wane has kept the heat off lenegan these last few years ,albeit at the expense of entertaining rugby,
this season has seen one slash to many together with halfarsed recruitment, if lams such a bad coach then what does that say about wires coach after yesterday.

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Re: Disappointing

Post by Wigan_forever1985 » Mon May 13, 2019 1:24 pm

shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 10:29 am
Wigan_forever1985 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 8:41 am
shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:16 am


If some of our other guys put as much effort in as Sarginson we would be in a better position. Now, I am not saying he is a top centre but unfortunately he is miles better than anyone in the squad bar Gildart. Our forwards played a lot better today but we desperately need to replace Clubb, Navarette, Tautai and Isa if we are to compete for trophies. Their yardage is very poor.
I wouldnt sayi he is miles better, i think Hankinson offers more in some areas less in others but overall id still have hankinson there myself

Sarge is rubbish, again he is one of those players though who every 10 games will score a great try or two but be absolutely crap the rest of the time, why we didnt sign keinhorst is beyond me he may not be a world beater but he is a good solid centre.

I agree Sarge puts effort in but i reckon he runs more meters sideways than he does forward
I have not seen anything in Hankinson that tells me he is SL class but I am willing to give him time.
Fair but he's more consistent than sarge who isn't superleague level either IMO
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Re: Disappointing

Post by Exiled Wiganer » Mon May 13, 2019 2:04 pm

Yes! 😠 if you cannot see a massive improvement in that display, you must have been watching something else!
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I am not saying it wasn’t an improvement, my point is that this was the high point of the year, and it was a loss. With a strong team, in a big match. Given the dross we have seen thus far all year, that Williams looks like he is gone for a long time, and that by Lam’s admission, we will only have got the hang of it in 6 weeks time, then I think I will leave my party dress in the cupboard.

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Re: Disappointing

Post by Wigan_forever1985 » Mon May 13, 2019 2:29 pm

Exiled Wiganer wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:04 pm
Yes! 😠 if you cannot see a massive improvement in that display, you must have been watching something else!
I am not saying it wasn’t an improvement, my point is that this was the high point of the year, and it was a loss. With a strong team, in a big match. Given the dross we have seen thus far all year, that Williams looks like he is gone for a long time, and that by Lam’s admission, we will only have got the hang of it in 6 weeks time, then I think I will leave my party dress in the cupboard.
Its a fair point

I remember during the 2006 season, we seemed to always play good enough to just get beat - so week to week we would be better and worse but seemed to be always coming up short.

Fact is Wire were far from on form yesterday and we had the chance to put them away (and salvage possibly our only chance of silverware) and didnt

I sort of agree with Exiled here - we were better no doubt but it was hardly a turning point moment for me, we competed but still looked very lost
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Re: Disappointing

Post by moto748 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:20 pm

Well we could rein in the language for a start. Is anyone really "ecstatic"? How can you be ecstatic about a loss? Seems to me that most posters, quite reasonably, saw it as an improvement (certainly on the dire last couple of games). But a loss is still a loss. And pop went our best chance of silverware this season.

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Re: Disappointing

Post by josie andrews » Mon May 13, 2019 4:56 pm

Exiled Wiganer wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:04 pm
Yes! 😠 if you cannot see a massive improvement in that display, you must have been watching something else!
I am not saying it wasn’t an improvement, my point is that this was the high point of the year, and it was a loss. With a strong team, in a big match. Given the dross we have seen thus far all year, that Williams looks like he is gone for a long time, and that by Lam’s admission, we will only have got the hang of it in 6 weeks time, then I think I will leave my party dress in the cupboard.
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So if that's the "high point" of the year, the team as well not bother with playing for the rest of the season eh?
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Re: Disappointing

Post by Firestarter » Mon May 13, 2019 4:58 pm

It will be interesting to see how wigan play without george in the team
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Re: Disappointing

Post by moto748 » Mon May 13, 2019 5:51 pm

Firestarter wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 4:58 pm
It will be interesting to see how wigan play without george in the team
It will, but of course it entirely depends on who replaces him (from outside). If no-one , it's hard to be optimistic.

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Re: Disappointing

Post by wall_of_voodoo » Mon May 13, 2019 5:58 pm

Well isn't this the opportunity for Harry Smith to show he can make the SL grade?
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