Vikings to go part time

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Vikings to go part time

Post by josie andrews » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:59 pm

WIDNES Vikings will revert to being part time next season after the board spelt out the financial realities facing the club after last year’s relegation and subsequent administration.

The drying up of previous revenue streams, combined with having to honour debts from the former club owners, have meant that Vikings have been forced to cut their cloth accordingly.

Inevitably, some players will move on to new clubs while those remaining will take a pay cut.

The club will, however, continue to shop around to build a strong team to challenge for promotion next year.


In a welcome display of transparency the board declared: “We are still feeling the effects of relegation and administration. From those perilous moments when the club’s future looked to be in jeopardy through to right now, the support of our fan base has been incredible.

“However, we have also been deprived of revenue streams that have been fundamental to the running of the club in the past, and had to honour many of the liabilities of the previous incarnation of Widnes Vikings.

“We’re making progress against these challenges, but there is much still to do - and naturally, this sets the course for our season ahead and ones to follow.

“The reality is that with our projected income for next season, Widnes Vikings cannot sustain a full-time first team environment.

We know that the passion exists for this club, and seen how our community will rally to fundraise and support, but at this stage the gap is simply a bridge too far.”

They explained the significant loss in funding from top flight, when they received £1.9 million in central funding, to now. They were due £800,000 as central funding, which meant they could maintain a full time squad.

But after the club’s administration troubles in February, a considerable amount of that figure has now been withheld, which has put considerable strain on the club for the remainder of the year.

The board have honoured the commitments of the previous board, despite losing the remainder of the parachute payment due. This was coupled with the club’s Academy funding being cut at the same time.


“Moving forward into the 2020 season, because of our current league position, the realistic central funding figure we are likely to receive is approximately £250,000.

“As a result, we as a Board need to ensure that the club is running within its means,” they said.

It has been important for us to speak to our players at this early stage, so we can start to plan for next season as soon as possible and also pay our players and their families this same respect.

People may hope for us to speculate to accumulate and hold back from making this decision, but we have seen - and are continuing to unpick - the effects of unchecked speculation and optimism.

Widnes Vikings has proudly been standing for over 140 years. After the recent experiences and troubles that we have faced this year, it’s imperative as a board that we play our part to ensure this club is here for the next 144 years.

So what does this mean for the club, it’s supporters and players?

Competing for success

The reality is that part-time teams can be and are highly competitive. Anyone who has watched our opponents this year will appreciate that there are quality players in this division who are capable of performing at a very high level. We have taken this into consideration, and this factor has been instrumental in our decision making for both performance and financial reasons.

Does going part-time mean that we are losing our ambition? Absolutely not.

We aspire to build a team with the best possible players, who are capable of putting the Vikings into those playoff positions, and beyond. We want a winning team, that plays good rugby and creates magical moments for our supporters.

There are seasoned, skilled and quality part-time players in this division, and we believe that we can offer them one of the best environments in the Betfred Championship. We have advantages over many of the other part-time clubs, and we will be using them all.

We believe that when all factors have been considered, we will be in a position to recruit a very competitive squad for the 2020 season and this has been integral to our decision-making process.

This change will mean that some of our current players will naturally wish to move on to pursue their careers with other clubs. They will leave with our full support and gratitude for their contribution. But, where possible, we hope to retain those players who wish to continue to be part of our journey.

We will strive to support them to find education or career options that mean that they can continue to be a Viking in 2020, and the support of our partners will be key to this. The retention and recruitment of players who wish to pursue this route is a massive priority for the club, and these players will ensure we are a competitive club moving forward.


This will be a challenging time for those players and our wider staff team, so your continued support means everything.

As a Board, we are currently exploring ways that we can sustain our Academy system, through developing alternative funding sources that will not affect our first team environment. We firmly believe that the players that have come through our youth system have brought value to this club, in every sense.

They have worn the shirt with pride, stood by the club in its darkest moments and proved their ability. Developing our own players is a cost-effective way to build a competitive first team. Widnes is a rugby league town, and we will not give up on its ability to develop professional players without a fight.

Rebuilding

This decision is about giving Widnes Vikings a firm financial footing for next year, so we can rebuild. It is a decision that has not been made lightly, and is something that is not necessarily permanent.

As a Board, we are Widnes supporters with the very best interests of this club and this town at heart. We aspire to see Widnes Vikings back in the top-flight and hope that this change is just ultimately a step to be able to do that.

We wish to return Widnes Vikings to Super League in a sustainable manner, ensuring that we do so in a financially responsible way that can stand the club in good stead for generations to come.

There are already real shoots of optimism. We have incredible supporters, and your passionate backing of the team this season has not only saved the club, but given it a chance to rebuild. The manner in which VIQI has been reinvigorated, as well as seeing the efforts of WISSL and the commitment of the many volunteers who support our retail and match day operations, has been nothing short of phenomenal. The funds raised and collected by VIQI have been instrumental in saving the club, and it is absolutely imperative that this support is needed for the club to progress. Together, we’ve brought the feel-good factor back to Widnes Vikings and redefined the identity of the club.

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Re: Vikings to go part time

Post by shaunedwardsfanclub » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:33 pm

Ah Van will be up for grabs, don't tell Medlocke/Whiffy Kipper.
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Vikings to go part time

Post by DaveO » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:08 pm

Promotion and Relegation working well I see.

I have been saying for years relegation is not just a sporting ignominy but a financial disaster. Here is the proof.

Revenue streams dried up and they have to go part time.

The only way you can retain meaningful full time status in the lower leagues is if like Toronto you have a money bags owner.

And so long as there are any clubs like Toronto who have such owners and so can employ full time players, part timers like Widnes will have a very long wait to get back in SL.

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Re: Vikings to go part time

Post by medlocke » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:02 pm

shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:33 pm
Ah Van will be up for grabs, don't tell Medlocke/Whiffy Kipper.
He was in Villegailhenc the last time I checked, We missed out on a great signing there

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Re: Vikings to go part time

Post by Caboosegg » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:23 pm

I understand the RFL have rules but with holding payment is a giant middle finger to the fans (who Crowd funded to save them) the players whos job are at risk and to the new directors who stood up and saved the club.

Any punishment should be to the previous board of directors
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Re: Vikings to go part time

Post by bill.inger » Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:25 am

Hey Meds,
Have you read all of Josie's entry re Wigan Post on the 'Off Topic' section about Ah Van.

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Re: Vikings to go part time

Post by nathan_rugby » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:17 pm

DaveO wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:08 pm
Promotion and Relegation working well I see.

I have been saying for years relegation is not just a sporting ignominy but a financial disaster. Here is the proof.

Revenue streams dried up and they have to go part time.

The only way you can retain meaningful full time status in the lower leagues is if like Toronto you have a money bags owner.

And so long as there are any clubs like Toronto who have such owners and so can employ full time players, part timers like Widnes will have a very long wait to get back in SL.
Promotion and relegation isn't the issue. Its the fact that not many people really care about Rugby League. Poor TV deals, poor sponsorship's, poor advertising opportunities, poor revenue streams.
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Re: Vikings to go part time

Post by fozzieskem » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:00 pm

DaveO wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:08 pm
Promotion and Relegation working well I see.

I have been saying for years relegation is not just a sporting ignominy but a financial disaster. Here is the proof.

Revenue streams dried up and they have to go part time.

The only way you can retain meaningful full time status in the lower leagues is if like Toronto you have a money bags owner.

And so long as there are any clubs like Toronto who have such owners and so can employ full time players, part timers like Widnes will have a very long wait to get back in SL.
It didn't help the muppets running the club into the ground withwhile they where still in SL,in fairness Dave,relegation was just the top hat on it.

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Re: Vikings to go part time

Post by medlocke » Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:58 pm

bill.inger wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:25 am
Hey Meds,
Have you read all of Josie's entry re Wigan Post on the 'Off Topic' section about Ah Van.
No, but i'm going to now

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Re: Vikings to go part time

Post by DaveO » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:16 pm

nathan_rugby wrote:
DaveO wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:08 pm
Promotion and Relegation working well I see.

I have been saying for years relegation is not just a sporting ignominy but a financial disaster. Here is the proof.

Revenue streams dried up and they have to go part time.

The only way you can retain meaningful full time status in the lower leagues is if like Toronto you have a money bags owner.

And so long as there are any clubs like Toronto who have such owners and so can employ full time players, part timers like Widnes will have a very long wait to get back in SL.
Promotion and relegation isn't the issue. Its the fact that not many people really care about Rugby League. Poor TV deals, poor sponsorship's, poor advertising opportunities, poor revenue streams.
When a team gets relegated it loses a shed load of sponsorship money off Sky TV.

The idea relegation isn’t a financial issue is ridiculous.

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