Over 26,000 killed or seriously injured with 165,000 casualties in 2018 just on the roads.Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:13 am I hope the people panicking never read the Flu stats - they'd faint
Covid19 deaths world wide in 6 months 8,997
Generic Flu 290,000 - 650.000 EVERY YEAR!
People are just fecking mental!
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Flu mortality rate = 0.1% = 290-650K deathsWigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:13 am I hope the people panicking never read the Flu stats - they'd faint
Covid19 deaths world wide in 6 months 8,997
Generic Flu 290,000 - 650.000 EVERY YEAR!
Assuming the same infection rate (which is much higher with covid so this is a big underestimate)
Donald Trumps "downplaying the problem" moratlity rate = 1% = 2,9M-6.5M deaths
WHO estimated mortlity rate = 3.5% = 10M - 2.2M deaths
So youre saying not to worry, get out there and spread this about?
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Im saying that the reaction to this is completely out of scope to the problem - in fact the reaction is far more damaging.Mike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:39 pmso youre saying not to worry, get out there and spread this about?Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:13 am I hope the people panicking never read the Flu stats - they'd faint
Covid19 deaths world wide in 6 months 8,997
Generic Flu 290,000 - 650.000 EVERY YEAR!
When its regular flu season people observe certain norms like if you have flu you don't go visit frail and elderly and generally keep yourself to yourself until your better. We dont need to lock down the entire country and cause a global economic crash to simply follow what should be common sense.
If this was infecting 80000 people a day and killing 5000 a day i would say the reaction would be just - but it just isnt - its not even outstripping run of the mill flu which we and every other country deal with every single year of our lives
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is it? the country has been left unchecked and largely left to exactly the same conditions as usual and its not even managed to break in to 6 figures yet.Mike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:39 pmFlu mortality rate = 0.1% = 290-650K deathsWigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:13 am I hope the people panicking never read the Flu stats - they'd faint
Covid19 deaths world wide in 6 months 8,997
Generic Flu 290,000 - 650.000 EVERY YEAR!
Assuming the same infection rate (which is much higher with covid so this is a big underestimate)
Donald Trumps "downplaying the problem" moratlity rate = 1% = 2,9M-6.5M deaths
WHO estimated mortlity rate = 3.5% = 10M - 2.2M deaths
So youre saying not to worry, get out there and spread this about?
All your stats there are estimates - i have seen nothing in the figures after 6 months of it being out there to suggest it is capable of the reaching the estimates
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Huh?Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:49 pmis it? the country has been left unchecked and largely left to exactly the same conditions as usual and its not even managed to break in to 6 figures yet.Mike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:39 pmFlu mortality rate = 0.1% = 290-650K deathsWigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:13 am I hope the people panicking never read the Flu stats - they'd faint
Covid19 deaths world wide in 6 months 8,997
Generic Flu 290,000 - 650.000 EVERY YEAR!
Assuming the same infection rate (which is much higher with covid so this is a big underestimate)
Donald Trumps "downplaying the problem" moratlity rate = 1% = 2,9M-6.5M deaths
WHO estimated mortlity rate = 3.5% = 10M - 2.2M deaths
So youre saying not to worry, get out there and spread this about?
All your stats there are estimates - i have seen nothing in the figures after 6 months of it being out there to suggest it is capable of the reaching the estimates
So you are saying that the mortality rates are wrong, and its probably the same as seasonal flu and its no more contagious than seasonal flu?
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Italy overtakes China in terms of the numbers of dead - really?
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They have an older population than most countrieswiddenoldboy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:08 pm Italy overtakes China in terms of the numbers of dead - really?
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Does anyone seriously trust the Chinese Communist Party when it comes to telling the truth about COVID.19 numbers? They are the ones who lied about the start of the virus and jailed doctors who warned against it. At the same time they allowed planes to depart worldwide knowing that their virius would spread across the globe.
They are now attempting to change the narrative over COVID.19 to tell their population that China is leading the world in getting rid of the "worldwide" virus as they have the best systems for doing it.
Trump has upset them big time by calling it the "Chinese Virus" which is where it originated. We all know that but the CCP is in full denial about it.
I agree with WF1895 in that compared to "Flu" COVID.19 are small numbers. Compared to "Influenza A" which hits us from time to time the COVID.19 numbers are minute.
They are now attempting to change the narrative over COVID.19 to tell their population that China is leading the world in getting rid of the "worldwide" virus as they have the best systems for doing it.
Trump has upset them big time by calling it the "Chinese Virus" which is where it originated. We all know that but the CCP is in full denial about it.
I agree with WF1895 in that compared to "Flu" COVID.19 are small numbers. Compared to "Influenza A" which hits us from time to time the COVID.19 numbers are minute.
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They aren’t small numbers. The death rate for over 80’s for coved-19 is 6%. For flu it’s 0.8%.Wiganer Ted wrote: I agree with WF1895 in that compared to "Flu" COVID.19 are small numbers. Compared to "Influenza A" which hits us from time to time the COVID.19 numbers are minute.
In general it’s 0.1% v 2.1%. That just what’s happened so far.
We know the yearly stats for flu because we have had it for for years. We don’t know how infectious covid but it’s infection rate looks much higher.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... comparison
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Who to believe, eh? The experts across the world who have spent lifetimes studying these diseases, or some bloke on the internet who reckons it's nothing much to worry about? Even Trump and Johnson, for all their woefulness, aren't saying that.