Fans Forum Next Tuesday

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fozzieskem wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:18 pm Good,a positive move by the club so long as honest questions are asked and not a room full of apologists for the current state of the club.

A cold hard look is clearly needed at the club and the last thing is needed is soft questions.
Questions? Why do they need to be asked questions? They must be deaf and blind if they don't know what the fans concerns are.

The question I'd really like to ask which to them might be one that isn't so obvious as they seem to live in a dream world in this regard which is about the seeming lack of a culture of constant improvement where instead of giving players who are either past it (e.g. Clubb) or not good enough (e.g. Powell) new contracts the club doesn't seek to constantly improve?

I am sure the answer would be related to the salary cap but I can't believe better players than these two have not been available within budget constraints over the time they have been here, which would be my response.
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DaveO wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:36 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:18 pm Good,a positive move by the club so long as honest questions are asked and not a room full of apologists for the current state of the club.

A cold hard look is clearly needed at the club and the last thing is needed is soft questions.
Questions? Why do they need to be asked questions? They must be deaf and blind if they don't know what the fans concerns are.

The question I'd really like to ask which to them might be one that isn't so obvious as they seem to live in a dream world in this regard which is about the seeming lack of a culture of constant improvement where instead of giving players who are either past it (e.g. Clubb) or not good enough (e.g. Powell) new contracts the club doesn't seek to constantly improve?

I am sure the answer would be related to the salary cap but I can't believe better players than these two have not been available within budget constraints over the time they have been here, which would be my response.
Could of had Danny Walker signed up 6 months ago when he was able to talk to other clubs, probably for a similar salary to what he gets at Wire. He's going to be a top top player.

Satae at hull was out of contract, we should of been all over him.
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Caboosegg wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:42 pm
Dan2266 wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:26 pm Id be questioning the lack of ambition if anything, why have we accepted mediocrity and stuck with a coach who is clearly not performing.

Why we seem to be reliant on old heads coming back and the jobs for the boys culture.

Why announcements aren't made within a reasonable timescale (Do they already know fans will object to said announcements - Thornley) If that is the case, why are we signing players we know are substandard (That would be a good one to ask if they say they still have ambition to win trophies)
I mean you just summed up some issues the club face.

You have no idea how wekl Thornley would do for us, he went alright at catalan and making a judgement based of leigh is like deciding if a player is any good by watching Wigan play at the moment.

Fans have their own view of if a player is good enough not based of stats but their own belief as I don't very few actually sit and watch every game they play at other clubs.

People moaned about not getting NRL props, we get two and already people are finding reasons for them to fail.

Even with Thornley who stats don't back up the random complaints as players change a new coach would do wonders.
The idea a new coach will revitalise Thornley is fanciful in my opinion. A player of his age has precisely zero amount of improvement left in him. What you see is what you will get and this is a poor signing.

I am not sure where this idea he played well for Cats comes from either. He was only there 2017-18 playing 38 games and didn't feature in the CC winning side.

What amazes me is if he'd signed for a club like Wakefield no one on here would bat an eye and if they had any opinion at all it would be of a mid table standard player moving to a mid table club. If Wire or Saints had signed him people would laugh. Yet when he gets here, he's going to turn into the player he's never been.

As to this signing and the fans forum, the question that IL & Rads have to answer is why are the likes of Saints signing the likes of Hopogate who is also 29 while we get Thornley? Do we actually have any scouting going on?

If you are going to sign a back of that age sign one who has proved to be a top class player not one who never did.
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Very logical and solid post by DaveO!

As for the fans forum, I've never attended one. For those who have attended, are they generally quite diverse and open or is it simply an attempt by the leadership to paper over the cracks?
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Dan2266 wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:27 pm
Fujiman wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:19 pm I would guess there'll be plenty off this forum going then to air their grievances?
Work commitments, even still I couldn't go lol id get carried away and probably get someone in trouble :lol: :roll:
That’s usually me! Did many years ago & Mr Lenagan fell out with me for a little while 😳

We did make up though ☺️
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only 120 to attend is it being shown live on Wigan TV?
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First Try Tickle wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:46 pm Why are tickets only available in person and at 10am.

Do they only want who are either out of work or too old to work.
The shop only opens at 10. So if you’re going to the game you could probably pick one up then.
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jaws1 wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:16 pm only 120 to attend is it being shown live on Wigan TV?
No, but I would think it would be recorded & shown as soon as they can.
Anyone can support a team when it is winning, that takes no courage.
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If anyone has any specific questions & aren’t or can’t attend please let me know & I will ask them for you 😊
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Does anyone know if you can collect a ticket for someone else or does everyone have to turn up to collect?
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