Perhaps it’s because the marquee at the moment doesn’t really deserve it IMOBlackpool_Pie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:54 amI get to a degree not liking the marquee player exemptions, but why does it matter if its a forward or a back?josie andrews wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:08 am I also don’t agree with players getting special privileges. In fact I don’t agree with the Marquee player either. Especially a forward!!
Team v Saints
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josie andrews
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Re: Team v Saints
Anyone can support a team when it is winning, that takes no courage.
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
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Who is the marquee player?josie andrews wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:07 amPerhaps it’s because the marquee at the moment doesn’t really deserve it IMOBlackpool_Pie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:54 amI get to a degree not liking the marquee player exemptions, but why does it matter if its a forward or a back?josie andrews wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:08 am I also don’t agree with players getting special privileges. In fact I don’t agree with the Marquee player either. Especially a forward!!
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Re: Team v Saints
Good morning guys .
Today is the day . Arguably the best day in the calendar !
Whatever happened with Zak must be disappointing for you but fair and play to the club for taking that action . A lesson that all clubs should follow .
Irrespective, i hope you enjoy the day at our place and the game is a good one .
Look after each other and enjoy !
COYS
Today is the day . Arguably the best day in the calendar !
Whatever happened with Zak must be disappointing for you but fair and play to the club for taking that action . A lesson that all clubs should follow .
Irrespective, i hope you enjoy the day at our place and the game is a good one .
Look after each other and enjoy !
COYS
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Re: Team v Saints
Batemanjobo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:31 amWho is the marquee player?josie andrews wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:07 amPerhaps it’s because the marquee at the moment doesn’t really deserve it IMOBlackpool_Pie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:54 am
I get to a degree not liking the marquee player exemptions, but why does it matter if its a forward or a back?
Anyone can support a team when it is winning, that takes no courage.
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
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Re: Team v Saints
Nice one, enjoy your day toosaint wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:17 am Good morning guys .
Today is the day . Arguably the best day in the calendar !
Whatever happened with Zak must be disappointing for you but fair and play to the club for taking that action . A lesson that all clubs should follow .
Irrespective, i hope you enjoy the day at our place and the game is a good one .
Look after each other and enjoy !
COYS
Anyone can support a team when it is winning, that takes no courage.
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
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Re: Team v Saints
Not having Marshall, Hardaker, Thornley or KPP as options in the backs is a blow, but I don't think our backs have been outstanding this year (Field aside) so in theory we should be able to field a backline of relatively similar strength.
Marshall is the biggest loss, but if you view French as his replacement it's not the biggest step down from where we were at the start of the year.
Hardaker was very good against Wakefield but fairly average most of the season. His defence is his strength but if Bateman replaces him at centre that's not a huge step down either (though it weakens the back row). Bateman's strength in that role is his defence and he's played well when asked to fill in at centre this season.
Bibby presumably remains at left centre because that at least keeps some consistency.
That means the question is who takes that wing spot that was earmarked for either Thornley or Hardaker at the start of the season - presumably it's a straight choice between Halsall or Miski and I'd prefer Halsall. Neither Thornley or Hardaker have been outstanding in that role, so if Halsall plays like he has done on the wing previously then it's not the biggest step down either. Miski is the one who is bit of an unknown following his difficult debut against Toulouse.
Maybe Matt Peet will be tempted by having two second row forwards at centre and playing Bibby on the wing but he's the only player who seems to have been consistently played in one role in that backline so it would seem a risk to make more changes than necessary.
The key will probably be how well our pack deals with their forwards. Even in games we've won there's been a tendency for our pack to end up on the back foot for long spells and struggle to get out of our own 30 while facing sustained pressure. Sometimes we can soak that pressure up, but I can't see Saints being kept out if they dominate us like that. The players are going to have to give it everything.
Marshall is the biggest loss, but if you view French as his replacement it's not the biggest step down from where we were at the start of the year.
Hardaker was very good against Wakefield but fairly average most of the season. His defence is his strength but if Bateman replaces him at centre that's not a huge step down either (though it weakens the back row). Bateman's strength in that role is his defence and he's played well when asked to fill in at centre this season.
Bibby presumably remains at left centre because that at least keeps some consistency.
That means the question is who takes that wing spot that was earmarked for either Thornley or Hardaker at the start of the season - presumably it's a straight choice between Halsall or Miski and I'd prefer Halsall. Neither Thornley or Hardaker have been outstanding in that role, so if Halsall plays like he has done on the wing previously then it's not the biggest step down either. Miski is the one who is bit of an unknown following his difficult debut against Toulouse.
Maybe Matt Peet will be tempted by having two second row forwards at centre and playing Bibby on the wing but he's the only player who seems to have been consistently played in one role in that backline so it would seem a risk to make more changes than necessary.
The key will probably be how well our pack deals with their forwards. Even in games we've won there's been a tendency for our pack to end up on the back foot for long spells and struggle to get out of our own 30 while facing sustained pressure. Sometimes we can soak that pressure up, but I can't see Saints being kept out if they dominate us like that. The players are going to have to give it everything.
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Exiled Wiganer
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Re: Team v Saints
Miski is playing on the wing. Hopefully he will be able to catch the ball today.
One thing I am looking for is a sign that the game matters to our lot, and that we keep fighting however far behind we fall. We have had worse teams in about 15 of the last 20 years. Which, given the relative resources is a disgrace. We need to draw a line in the sand at some point, and look to create a better culture, sign better players and work harder than they do. It will take a while, but i hope Peet will be the man to make sure in a few years we can go into these games as favourites.
One thing I am looking for is a sign that the game matters to our lot, and that we keep fighting however far behind we fall. We have had worse teams in about 15 of the last 20 years. Which, given the relative resources is a disgrace. We need to draw a line in the sand at some point, and look to create a better culture, sign better players and work harder than they do. It will take a while, but i hope Peet will be the man to make sure in a few years we can go into these games as favourites.
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archiekeith
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Re: Team v Saints
Agree. must Say didn't expect a post from Rwander? So Soon Exiled WarriorExiled Wiganer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:04 pm Miski is playing on the wing. Hopefully he will be able to catch the ball today.
One thing I am looking for is a sign that the game matters to our lot, and that we keep fighting however far behind we fall. We have had worse teams in about 15 of the last 20 years. Which, given the relative resources is a disgrace. We need to draw a line in the sand at some point, and look to create a better culture, sign better players and work harder than they do. It will take a while, but i hope Peet will be the man to make sure in a few years we can go into these games as favourites.
Re: Team v Saints
Good old sky.
Field has been winning games single Handedly and the only difference between this year and last is field.
Field has been winning games single Handedly and the only difference between this year and last is field.
These are two reasons not to trust people.
1. We don't know them.
2. We do know them.
1. We don't know them.
2. We do know them.