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widdenoldboy wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:16 pm Great thread....if Bateman goes then we are in uncertain times so I'd like him to stay.

I'd assume his potential move is a bit of a suprise to the board? Otherwise we would have been able to show McDonnel/Nicholson an open door to first team rugby.

Nsemba has massive potential but, IIRC, he is a year younger than most of the Academy team and needs more time for physique development - I'd have thoght he would be ready at the end of 2023 season at the very earliest. I don't see another 2nd row in Reserves/Academy just yet either.
As always with these young lads expectations should be tempered a little bit
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Re: Bateman

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widdenoldboy wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:16 pm Great thread....if Bateman goes then we are in uncertain times so I'd like him to stay.

I'd assume his potential move is a bit of a suprise to the board? Otherwise we would have been able to show McDonnel/Nicholson an open door to first team rugby.

Nsemba has massive potential but, IIRC, he is a year younger than most of the Academy team and needs more time for physique development - I'd have thoght he would be ready at the end of 2023 season at the very earliest. I don't see another 2nd row in Reserves/Academy just yet either.
Irrespective of whether Bateman leaves, or not, the club dropped a clanger when they failed to retain Nicholson.
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Re: Bateman

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Charriots Offiah wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:35 pm
widdenoldboy wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:16 pm Great thread....if Bateman goes then we are in uncertain times so I'd like him to stay.

I'd assume his potential move is a bit of a suprise to the board? Otherwise we would have been able to show McDonnel/Nicholson an open door to first team rugby.

Nsemba has massive potential but, IIRC, he is a year younger than most of the Academy team and needs more time for physique development - I'd have thoght he would be ready at the end of 2023 season at the very earliest. I don't see another 2nd row in Reserves/Academy just yet either.
Irrespective of whether Bateman leaves, or not, the club dropped a clanger when they failed to retain Nicholson.
Correct. The persistence to keep going with 4 props or 3 props and shorrocks ruled him of having any chance. Just from watching him for the knights and wire he’s already way ahead of shorrocks and partington imo. top prospect wish him all the best at wire
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Re: Bateman

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Dreamteam wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:34 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:35 pm
widdenoldboy wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:16 pm Great thread....if Bateman goes then we are in uncertain times so I'd like him to stay.

I'd assume his potential move is a bit of a suprise to the board? Otherwise we would have been able to show McDonnel/Nicholson an open door to first team rugby.

Nsemba has massive potential but, IIRC, he is a year younger than most of the Academy team and needs more time for physique development - I'd have thoght he would be ready at the end of 2023 season at the very earliest. I don't see another 2nd row in Reserves/Academy just yet either.
Irrespective of whether Bateman leaves, or not, the club dropped a clanger when they failed to retain Nicholson.
Correct. The persistence to keep going with 4 props or 3 props and shorrocks ruled him of having any chance. Just from watching him for the knights and wire he’s already way ahead of shorrocks and partington imo. top prospect wish him all the best at wire
He’s a star in the making. He has size,skill, speed, toughness, determination etc.
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southportcdm wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:27 pm Bryce Cartwright is a decent player but, from his wiki page (if true), I wouldn't have thought he was the type of bloke that Matty Peet would want in the squad.
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Charriots Offiah wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:51 pm
Dreamteam wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:34 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:35 pm

Irrespective of whether Bateman leaves, or not, the club dropped a clanger when they failed to retain Nicholson.
Correct. The persistence to keep going with 4 props or 3 props and shorrocks ruled him of having any chance. Just from watching him for the knights and wire he’s already way ahead of shorrocks and partington imo. top prospect wish him all the best at wire
He’s a star in the making. He has size,skill, speed, toughness, determination etc.
So he is yet unproven at SL level, Is he really the second coming or is he another Rocky Hampshire being bigged up by certain fans again???
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Re: Bateman

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medlocke wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:27 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:51 pm
Dreamteam wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:34 pm

Correct. The persistence to keep going with 4 props or 3 props and shorrocks ruled him of having any chance. Just from watching him for the knights and wire he’s already way ahead of shorrocks and partington imo. top prospect wish him all the best at wire
He’s a star in the making. He has size,skill, speed, toughness, determination etc.
So he is yet unproven at SL level, Is he really the second coming or is he another Rocky Hampshire being bigged up by certain fans again???
What’s the difference between unproven yet and not good enough. Partington wasn’t good enough for us and shorrocks doesn’t start for anyone in sl yet both have been picked ahead of him stunting his potential. At least make an effort to look like we want to keep him instead of playing him in the reserves when he’s way ahead of that level
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Dreamteam wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:34 pm
medlocke wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:27 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:51 pm

He’s a star in the making. He has size,skill, speed, toughness, determination etc.
So he is yet unproven at SL level, Is he really the second coming or is he another Rocky Hampshire being bigged up by certain fans again???
What’s the difference between unproven yet and not good enough. Partington wasn’t good enough for us and shorrocks doesn’t start for anyone in sl yet both have been picked ahead of him stunting his potential. At least make an effort to look like we want to keep him instead of playing him in the reserves when he’s way ahead of that level
Yet when Nicholson left the club came out and said he did have a pathway.
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Re: Bateman

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Caboosegg wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:47 pm
Dreamteam wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:34 pm
medlocke wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:27 pm

So he is yet unproven at SL level, Is he really the second coming or is he another Rocky Hampshire being bigged up by certain fans again???
What’s the difference between unproven yet and not good enough. Partington wasn’t good enough for us and shorrocks doesn’t start for anyone in sl yet both have been picked ahead of him stunting his potential. At least make an effort to look like we want to keep him instead of playing him in the reserves when he’s way ahead of that level
Yet when Nicholson left the club came out and said he did have a pathway.
That could be anything. Oneil has a pathway but he still is stuck behind Powell a player he’s better than for the 2 nd year. He’ll be behind Powell again next year we all know that. Some players are ahead of the age group they’re in and he was one of them
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Re: Bateman

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medlocke wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:27 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:51 pm
Dreamteam wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:34 pm

Correct. The persistence to keep going with 4 props or 3 props and shorrocks ruled him of having any chance. Just from watching him for the knights and wire he’s already way ahead of shorrocks and partington imo. top prospect wish him all the best at wire
He’s a star in the making. He has size,skill, speed, toughness, determination etc.
So he is yet unproven at SL level, Is he really the second coming or is he another Rocky Hampshire being bigged up by certain fans again???
We will have to wait and see I suppose but, in my view, he has looked the real deal every time I have watched him play.
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