French And Field

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DaiJones
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Kevin Penny + Jamie Foster adds up to about 7% of prime Martin Offiah. That’s the reason they didn’t make it

As Dave says he would be scoring tries for fun these days but let’s be honest he would never have left RU in the first place now or a hypothetical British winger with his gifts would simply go straight to the NRL
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Mike wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:21 pm We're fine as we are in the backs, the forwards are the problem.
And that’s the truth.

We didn’t get beat last night because French was at 6.

We didn’t get beat because Smith missed 2 goals.

We got beat because the pack got beat, Havard was a big miss, but the others are just not getting on top. Field and French can paper over the cracks, but if the pack isn’t up to it then we will struggle.

Thing I can’t work out is the pack did it against saints and wire, but we then struggle against Wakefield. Some games Byrne is a real enforcer, others he struggles.
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First Try Tickle wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:09 pm
Mike wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:21 pm We're fine as we are in the backs, the forwards are the problem.
And that’s the truth.

We didn’t get beat last night because French was at 6.

We didn’t get beat because Smith missed 2 goals.

We got beat because the pack got beat, Havard was a big miss, but the others are just not getting on top. Field and French can paper over the cracks, but if the pack isn’t up to it then we will struggle.

Thing I can’t work out is the pack did it against saints and wire, but we then struggle against Wakefield. Some games Byrne is a real enforcer, others he struggles.
The problem is no Cooper and Singleton and Mago are not up to it. We do need a six though.
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First Try Tickle wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:09 pm
Mike wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:21 pm We're fine as we are in the backs, the forwards are the problem.
And that’s the truth.

We didn’t get beat last night because French was at 6.

We didn’t get beat because Smith missed 2 goals.

We got beat because the pack got beat, Havard was a big miss, but the others are just not getting on top. Field and French can paper over the cracks, but if the pack isn’t up to it then we will struggle.

Thing I can’t work out is the pack did it against saints and wire, but we then struggle against Wakefield. Some games Byrne is a real enforcer, others he struggles.
Almost entirely different pack mate.
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Bryne and singleton aren’t good enough and that’s a simple fact. For his size Bryne just doesn’t make the yards he should do, as soon as he’s into contact his legs fold like a baby giraffe, surely coaches could help him change his technique to improve his leg drive? Singleton isn’t worth commenting on, he’s just crap.
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The Martin Offiah that played rugby wouldn't make it in the modern game all the players are fitter and faster.

But if Martin Offiah was coming through now, he would most likely also be quicker and fitter due to training regemes and medical and fitness science advances.
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Caboosegg wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:02 am The Martin Offiah that played rugby wouldn't make it in the modern game all the players are fitter and faster.

But if Martin Offiah was coming through now, he would most likely also be quicker and fitter due to training regemes and medical and fitness science advances.
If they are that much fitter why so many injuries
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medlocke wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:23 am
Caboosegg wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:02 am The Martin Offiah that played rugby wouldn't make it in the modern game all the players are fitter and faster.

But if Martin Offiah was coming through now, he would most likely also be quicker and fitter due to training regemes and medical and fitness science advances.
If they are that much fitter why so many injuries
It’s the irony of them being fitter and stronger which makes them prone to injury

Most of these guys are carrying very little body fat and they are on the edge of their bodies capability’s

Contact is harder just to increased speeds of both defenders and attackers
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medlocke wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:23 am
Caboosegg wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:02 am The Martin Offiah that played rugby wouldn't make it in the modern game all the players are fitter and faster.

But if Martin Offiah was coming through now, he would most likely also be quicker and fitter due to training regemes and medical and fitness science advances.
If they are that much fitter why so many injuries
Same reason a formula 1 car breaks down more than a regular car.
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Flash wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:58 am
medlocke wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:23 am
Caboosegg wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:02 am The Martin Offiah that played rugby wouldn't make it in the modern game all the players are fitter and faster.

But if Martin Offiah was coming through now, he would most likely also be quicker and fitter due to training regemes and medical and fitness science advances.
If they are that much fitter why so many injuries
Same reason a formula 1 car breaks down more than a regular car.
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