HullKR v Wigan CC match thread

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Can someone explain to me how Joe Shorrock got a red card for a shoulder to the head of Matty Lewis, and he only gets one match ban. Usually a shoulder charge get a minimum of 3 matches. Also Joe wrapped his arm around Lewis, a LAWFUL TACKLE. I think RFL Disciplinary panel was trying to stop Moore from looking like an arsehole, I think it's a little bit to late for that..
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josie andrews wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:29 pm
Raging Penguin wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:51 pm so a tackle to the shoulder is now classed as a high tackle?
The ref was calling pulling the shirt collar a high shot in the academy games!!
That's because the rule has been trialed at academy level about six weeks ago. Any tackle above the armpit is classed as a penalty at academy level.
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No straw damn us wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:10 pm
josie andrews wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:29 pm
Raging Penguin wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:51 pm so a tackle to the shoulder is now classed as a high tackle?
The ref was calling pulling the shirt collar a high shot in the academy games!!
That's because the rule has been trialed at academy level about six weeks ago. Any tackle above the armpit is classed as a penalty at academy level.
We might as well call time on the sport or Rugby League and invent a new non contact sport, not that anyone would be interested in it.
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No straw damn us wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:10 pm
josie andrews wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:29 pm
Raging Penguin wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:51 pm so a tackle to the shoulder is now classed as a high tackle?
The ref was calling pulling the shirt collar a high shot in the academy games!!
That's because the rule has been trialed at academy level about six weeks ago. Any tackle above the armpit is classed as a penalty at academy level.
I know, I’m just saying what the rules have been & I will assume they will move into the professional game eventually! Tick/pass rugby soon.

As an aside;
Warriors to host Touch Rugby League event

Wigan Warriors to host the inaugural Premier Touch Rugby League event at Robin Park Arena.

Action gets underway 10:30am, before continuing after Wigan Warriors’ Super League fixture against Leigh Leopards at the DW Stadium.

Live music, food and beverage stalls and a Fan Village will be available for supporters to enjoy.

Wigan Warriors will host the inaugural Premier Touch Rugby League event at Robin Park Arena on Saturday.

Joining hosts Wigan Warriors are foundation sides from Hull FC, Hull KR, Sheffield Eagles, Wakefield Trinity and Warrington Wolves for a one-day extravaganza showcasing the skills and social benefits of Touch Rugby League.

Away from the action on the field, visitors can enjoy plenty of fun with live music from local band Casino Club, as well as food and beverage stalls and a Fan Village.

The action gets underway at 10.30am, takes a break in the afternoon as Wigan Warriors take on Leigh Leopards in the Betfred Super League (KO 1pm), then resumes at 3.30pm with entertainment continuing into the evening.

RFL Social Officer, Brad Kelk, says: “We launched the innovative Touch Rugby League programme earlier this year to help drive up participation in the social game among adults, and we’re really excited to be working with Wigan Warriors on this showcase event.

“It promises to be a fantastic day for our foundations, players and spectators alike. And it’s all free!”

Devised by the Rugby Football League, a Foundation Touch Series is now being delivered by pro and semi-pro club foundations, giving them the flexibility to provide different levels of activity to help players aged 14 and over improve their skills and confidence in a social setting.

Activities will be delivered over a five-year period – with support from the RFL – and as player demand grows, club foundations will have the opportunity to expand their offer from weekly sessions and community events into competitive leagues.

Brad Kelk added: “We have been really pleased with how well the Foundation Touch Series has been received by club foundations. Social variants of the game are a major focus area for us and will become increasingly significant over the next five years.

“Our aim is to create a sustainable playing model by supporting foundations to deliver weekly sessions, which will hopefully lead to the formation of teams and local leagues.”

More information about Touch Rugby League is available via the RFL website.

https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2023/07/ ... gue-event/
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The sign of things to come
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No straw damn us wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:10 pm
josie andrews wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:29 pm
Raging Penguin wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:51 pm so a tackle to the shoulder is now classed as a high tackle?
The ref was calling pulling the shirt collar a high shot in the academy games!!
That's because the rule has been trialed at academy level about six weeks ago. Any tackle above the armpit is classed as a penalty at academy level.
Has that now been put into the tackling into Superleague games?
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PF Warrior wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:33 pm
No straw damn us wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:10 pm
josie andrews wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:29 pm

The ref was calling pulling the shirt collar a high shot in the academy games!!
That's because the rule has been trialed at academy level about six weeks ago. Any tackle above the armpit is classed as a penalty at academy level.
Has that now been put into the tackling into Superleague games?
Not yet, it has been tried out with the academy games , tackles have to be below the shoulder/chest
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We could have won the game but we had poor game management especially at the end.

We looked content with running the clock down and going into golden point, instead of trying to see the game off in regular time, now players may have been out on their feet but we should have been playing to our strengths and using the outside backs with speed to go round them, KR moved up quickly in the middle so two cut out passes were needed to get it to SR and centres.

The early kick in extra time was baffling, commentators suggested he was going for a 40/20 but Smith had been nowehere near kicking one of those all game so why try from deep in your own half in golden point, using up the 6 tackles from in your own half and get the ball onto their try line with the kick and make them work for it and hoepfully force an error.

Poor reffing decisions did not help us, Shorrocks decision was a 50/50 for me and on one angle looked like he made contact with the ball, on another angle it looked closer to the head, but it did look like the head jerked into the shoulder. The charge down, well what can you say, when a player charges at another player who is taking a kick, with no intentions of making a tackle and he gets his body in the way, that is a definate charge down and should have been back to one, that could have been the game changer for us as we would have started the set on half way.
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WarriorWinger wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:00 am We could have won the game but we had poor game management especially at the end.

We looked content with running the clock down and going into golden point, instead of trying to see the game off in regular time, now players may have been out on their feet but we should have been playing to our strengths and using the outside backs with speed to go round them, KR moved up quickly in the middle so two cut out passes were needed to get it to SR and centres.

The early kick in extra time was baffling, commentators suggested he was going for a 40/20 but Smith had been nowehere near kicking one of those all game so why try from deep in your own half in golden point, using up the 6 tackles from in your own half and get the ball onto their try line with the kick and make them work for it and hoepfully force an error.

Poor reffing decisions did not help us, Shorrocks decision was a 50/50 for me and on one angle looked like he made contact with the ball, on another angle it looked closer to the head, but it did look like the head jerked into the shoulder. The charge down, well what can you say, when a player charges at another player who is taking a kick, with no intentions of making a tackle and he gets his body in the way, that is a definate charge down and should have been back to one, that could have been the game changer for us as we would have started the set on half way.
i've watched it back twice now and not really changed my view on how i felt whilst there

We were in control / dominant in the 1st half but didnt create enough. HKR only got anywhere near our line from our mistakes (Field knock on = try, KPP knock on, King offload in 20m). Poor defensive setup from the scrum gifted KR the overlap on our left side, and they easily took it. The other 2 knock on just invited KR into our 20m, other than that 1st half they came nowhere near us as my Dad had joked he was hoping to see some of the game down our end in the 2nd half

2nd half clearly impacted by the sending off. i still havent changed my view and think it was an absolute monster hit and nowt wrong with it (one of the reasons i love watching RL).

SKD correctly binned for obstruction, he did it within the 1st couple of minutes of the game, when he looked at Miski and then obstructed him from challenging for a kick, but not penalised

1st 20mins of the 2nd half we looked to still be in control of the game, even though again we hadnt added to the scoreline with a try

SKD back from the bin turned into the turning point of the game IMO, as he added a bit of energy and made the play for their 2nd try drawing 3 men into the tackle and releasing to Parcell.

Agree re charge downs, and just so inconsistently refereed on the day. KPP one charge down, back to 1. 2 HKR charge downs, 1 play on and 2nd play on but it went to a KR player in offside position, and not given as penalty to Wigan)

And finally our last play. Said on Sunday as he kicked that it was gifting them early possession with good field position. Why kick on the 3rd from deep in your own half?? Really didnt get that play at all.

i thought the effort and attitude from both teams was outstanding. Ball handling considering conditions was good and it was a case of which side would break 1st. KPP probably best game i've seen him play (after his initial knock on) was a monster

Couple of good interjections by BBC with Abdull on the KR bench, giving a player perspective on how things were going.
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Brilliant idea new rule it will reduce the attendances by half and the TV contract by half also what the foouk idiots are doing this to our game what next boxing can only hit the chest they have already bankrupt 4 big RU Clubs one owing 500 million how did that happen ?? . Why not scrap the sin bin and make naughty players SKIP 50 times on the spot or do community service . Sadly I am old school when the game was rough tough and exciting and had crowds waiting to get into games . Good news is in boxing the boxers do wrap their arms around the opponent about 100 times over 10 rounds & on a last note wait for it to become mandatory for all RL players to have head guards its coming trust me , & we all want forwards to drive the ball in rough and tough then we punish them for being too aggressive
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