Wigan squad for Huddersfield (R20)

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Re: Wigan squad for Huddersfield (R20)

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widdenoldboy wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:55 am
DaveOI wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:08 pm Fingers crossed Jai is ready, we need options in attack to give us confidence for the next few weeks.

Don’t know who MP will play at Hooker?

I think we need a fast bench for Huddersfield and not the usual heavy.
Leeming to start, not sure if he will do 80 so maybe Farrell will rotate in?
Leeming will maybe give us a bit more open play.
I’ve never seen Leeming as an 80 min player and that’s the issue we have. Right centre of field with no real replacement. Need to keep Faz where he’s best at.
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Re: Wigan squad for Huddersfield (R20)

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DaveOI wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:08 pm
widdenoldboy wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:55 am
DaveOI wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:08 pm Fingers crossed Jai is ready, we need options in attack to give us confidence for the next few weeks.

Don’t know who MP will play at Hooker?

I think we need a fast bench for Huddersfield and not the usual heavy.
Leeming to start, not sure if he will do 80 so maybe Farrell will rotate in?
Leeming will maybe give us a bit more open play.
I’ve never seen Leeming as an 80 min player and that’s the issue we have. Right centre of field with no real replacement. Need to keep Faz where he’s best at.
Not only that but virtually every game I've seen him play for us he seems to carry some sort of injury. 80 mins after a layoff wouldn't be ideal. Farrell isn't the answer. Maybe Smith or Rocky could spell there? We definitely need to pick the pace up a little around the ptb
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Leeming's injury record with us is a bit worrying but perhaps he's just been a bit unlucky this season. Does anybody know if he missed lots of games with previous clubs? The team is better with him and O'Neil rotating because of their different qualities but he should be able to play the full 80 mins in an emergency if we need him to. I seem to remember reading that he scored best on the bleep test in preseason.
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Re: Wigan squad for Huddersfield (R20)

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DaveOI wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:08 pm
widdenoldboy wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:55 am
DaveOI wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:08 pm Fingers crossed Jai is ready, we need options in attack to give us confidence for the next few weeks.

Don’t know who MP will play at Hooker?

I think we need a fast bench for Huddersfield and not the usual heavy.
Leeming to start, not sure if he will do 80 so maybe Farrell will rotate in?
Leeming will maybe give us a bit more open play.
I’ve never seen Leeming as an 80 min player and that’s the issue we have. Right centre of field with no real replacement. Need to keep Faz where he’s best at.
I would have to agree.

The wider concern that I have is that I think Wigan have c. 18-20 players that understand the way Peet wants to play and can be trusted to do so. After that we get into the "maybes" and "sometimes", which causes us problems.

Peet has no plan B, never has, just a very good Plan A. However, this relies on having the right players available. Arguably that's true of any team, but I do think it is more extreme at Wigan at the current time.

At the end of the day this isn't a criticism. Maybe that's the best way to go in a salary capped sport. We have 4 trophies in the cabinet, so something is obviously working!
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Wintergreen wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:41 am
DaveOI wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:08 pm
widdenoldboy wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:55 am

Leeming to start, not sure if he will do 80 so maybe Farrell will rotate in?
Leeming will maybe give us a bit more open play.
I’ve never seen Leeming as an 80 min player and that’s the issue we have. Right centre of field with no real replacement. Need to keep Faz where he’s best at.
I would have to agree.

The wider concern that I have is that I think Wigan have c. 18-20 players that understand the way Peet wants to play and can be trusted to do so. After that we get into the "maybes" and "sometimes", which causes us problems.

Peet has no plan B, never has, just a very good Plan A. However, this relies on having the right players available. Arguably that's true of any team, but I do think it is more extreme at Wigan at the current time.

At the end of the day this isn't a criticism. Maybe that's the best way to go in a salary capped sport. We have 4 trophies in the cabinet, so something is obviously working!
The old adage "your only as good as your last game" is very true and we have to adapt without pivotal players and come up with ways of winning again, or are we as some believe, a one man team (Bevan French)?
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I can't see Jai being able or being risked to play two games in 5 days following his injury. You'd think Tuesday's game was tougher so I'd imagine that he won't play tonight. The other possibility is that he plays part of the game tonight and then all the game on Tuesday. Whatever happens I just hope that after this run of matches he's fit for the rest of the season. I can't seeing us winning the GF without either Jai or Bevan. In truth, I think it's still unlikely, now that Brad is out, even if both the aussies are fit.
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Ipinwigan wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:11 pm
Wintergreen wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:41 am
DaveOI wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:08 pm

I’ve never seen Leeming as an 80 min player and that’s the issue we have. Right centre of field with no real replacement. Need to keep Faz where he’s best at.
I would have to agree.

The wider concern that I have is that I think Wigan have c. 18-20 players that understand the way Peet wants to play and can be trusted to do so. After that we get into the "maybes" and "sometimes", which causes us problems.

Peet has no plan B, never has, just a very good Plan A. However, this relies on having the right players available. Arguably that's true of any team, but I do think it is more extreme at Wigan at the current time.

At the end of the day this isn't a criticism. Maybe that's the best way to go in a salary capped sport. We have 4 trophies in the cabinet, so something is obviously working!
The old adage "your only as good as your last game" is very true and we have to adapt without pivotal players and come up with ways of winning again, or are we as some believe, a one man team (Bevan French)?
How about the old adage of "class is permanent, form is temporary". Those adages seem at odds. Perhaps neither of them are actually 100% true ...
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Re: Wigan squad for Huddersfield (R20)

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Mike wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 3:42 pm
Ipinwigan wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:11 pm
Wintergreen wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:41 am

I would have to agree.

The wider concern that I have is that I think Wigan have c. 18-20 players that understand the way Peet wants to play and can be trusted to do so. After that we get into the "maybes" and "sometimes", which causes us problems.

Peet has no plan B, never has, just a very good Plan A. However, this relies on having the right players available. Arguably that's true of any team, but I do think it is more extreme at Wigan at the current time.

At the end of the day this isn't a criticism. Maybe that's the best way to go in a salary capped sport. We have 4 trophies in the cabinet, so something is obviously working!
The old adage "your only as good as your last game" is very true and we have to adapt without pivotal players and come up with ways of winning again, or are we as some believe, a one man team (Bevan French)?
How about the old adage of "class is permanent, form is temporary". Those adages seem at odds. Perhaps neither of them are actually 100% true ...
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Re: Wigan squad for Huddersfield (R20)

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Wintergreen wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:41 am
DaveOI wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:08 pm
widdenoldboy wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:55 am

Leeming to start, not sure if he will do 80 so maybe Farrell will rotate in?
Leeming will maybe give us a bit more open play.
I’ve never seen Leeming as an 80 min player and that’s the issue we have. Right centre of field with no real replacement. Need to keep Faz where he’s best at.
I would have to agree.

The wider concern that I have is that I think Wigan have c. 18-20 players that understand the way Peet wants to play and can be trusted to do so. After that we get into the "maybes" and "sometimes", which causes us problems.

Peet has no plan B, never has, just a very good Plan A. However, this relies on having the right players available. Arguably that's true of any team, but I do think it is more extreme at Wigan at the current time.

At the end of the day this isn't a criticism. Maybe that's the best way to go in a salary capped sport. We have 4 trophies in the cabinet, so something is obviously working!
I see this quoted all the time referencing various different coaches and it's rarely, if ever, true. In Peet's case, already this season we've seen a game won through rearguard defensive effort (Penrith in the WCC), out and out, free flowing, heads up rugby (most notably the CC semi final and final but numerous other games too) and front loading the forwards to win it through the middle (Saints at home being a recent example).

Just because we have a couple games where we've lost doesn't mean there is no plan B. It just means that we have failed to execute whatever plans were in place. It doesn't even mean that we couldn't 'change tack' during a game. Compare the last 20 mins against Hull to what had gone before.

I really don't get people using this phrase. No offence intended Wintergreen and this certainly isn't aimed solely at your good self but from now on I'm going to request that anyone using this phrase qualifies exactly what they mean. Otherwise it's just a meaningless platitude.
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Re: Wigan squad for Huddersfield (R20)

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I left last night we 5 concerns and none of them are Matty Pete related.

1. Marshall seems to be carrying an injury, I've never seen him so slow.

2. Wardle seemed to pick up a knock right at the end he was limping after the pen was awarded.

2. Hampshire is not the answer to Farriomond being targeted/overplayed his distribution is poor

4. Smith is having a dip in form (outside of in game kicking) but we have no option to rest/drop him.

5. Our defence was very un wigan like. Normally we form a solid line which closes in like a net, last night we were all over the place with people jumping out and large gaps that a better team would have exploited.

Special mention to Miski for Huddersfield last try, no idea what he was doing but it's summing up our performances at the moment.
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