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again i notice that no one is talking about all the errors that Fletcher made, how much of a 'liabilty' Hock is with his temper. People have somthing against lockers on here but why? can i ask why?

When he plays well no one says anything when he doesn't play to well people are on him like a rash. Personnaly i feel that people are looking for a scape goat to blame the lack of trophies on, people don't want to call nobby but there willing to call the captain who nobby did choose, if you want to have a go at someone surely it's the coach who should be taking the stick. Not the player who was chosen by the coach to represent the side as far as captaincy is concered. Why are people moaning though? we're 4th in the league. We beat both Wakefield and Salford by a massive margain and we're improving week in week out, ok the saints game was a slip up but good sides learn from there slip ups and that's what we've been doing, after the defeat to saints on good friday we beat Leeds away. After the defeat to Huddersfield we beat Wakefield and Salford by very wide margains wich if you ask other clubs is not an easy thing to do

Joanne

i suggets you look very closely at the game

particularly for missed tackles and knock ons

Chris

it is well know on here that i do not rate Loughlin as do quite a few others , there are quite a few who do rate him and that is there right in an open forum lke we have on here

how ever i do agree with your comments and a quite sensible approach

well posted sir

Lockers Barrett and even Fletch make mistakes in these games because we are not dominant in the forwards and we are pushing the ball to make something happen , we are a couple of forwards impact wise away from being able to compete . That is the main reason coupled with a saints team which is just that a team.

Boring Topic. Heard it all before. Lets face facts. We lost to a far more composed and organised team. The whole of our defence was pants not just one player. when a saints player missed a tackle another player would be busting a gut to help that player out, our team could not be bothered.

We lost as a team not just one person's mistakes.

quite correct as a team we where pants

but Locks made some very bad errors

other people made errors also

but he made some soul destroying ones for the players around him

Our second rowers are playing that well that Nobby has to keep taking them off. I would never normally wish this BUT I would like to see Lockers injured for a month (which includes big matches) just to prove OAM and the knockers wrong.

CP you are pro Locks i am anti locks and nothing will change that

quite surprised you want him to get injured though

The only problem is my view is based on evidence yours is based on bias. I do not want him injured BUT it would prove my point proviso we had some decent opposition in that period.

i HAVE LOOKED CLOSELY AT THE GAME, 2 KNOCK ON'S THAT THEY SCORED FROM.....WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER POINTS THAT WERE CONCEDED !! NOT JUST LOCKERS PLAYING FOR WIGAN 12 OTHER PLAYERS, WHO MADE MISTAKES AND DIDNT PLAY WELL. YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY BY READING YOUR POSTS THAT YOU DONT LIKE LOCKERS.....WAIT TIL HE HAS ANOTHER GOOD GAME WHAT WILL YOU SAY THEN....your moaning about lockers is getting boring....you dont seem to mention Fielden....Hock.....lu lu !?????