Why does Hock and Leuluai not come in for criticism

[DaveO]

sai posted:
Why does Hock and Leuluai not come in for the same stick as Ashton and O’Loughlin. I cannot work this out.

You must have missed it then.

Hock in particular has had his critics all season but did look to have improved on giving away penalties. Other than discipline what else warrants critism of Hock?

Leuluai probably hasn't had that much stick because on the whole he has played quite well. He has certainly surprised me.

Hock gives away to many penalties goes missing yet he never gets any criticism.
Leuluai for me has been a complete waste of time and money he waits for Barrett to do everything yet he gets no criticism O’Loughlin and Ashton has a bad game and they get slated.
I am just as annoyed as everyone but we need to be fair with our comments

Ashton seems to me to be experiencing the "seconf season syndrome" where a player who in their first season has little expected of them does well but then in their second looks at bit exposed. You must agree he has made some mistakes this season like letting the ball bounce at Hudds (ciminal for a full back).

Lockers is the captain so is bound to attract attention for that but he is also up there in the penalties given away statistics (like Hock). I think Hock, Lockers and Fletcher are in the top six as far as giving away penalties goes.

There are those who seem to dislike Lockers and Ashton but I think both players have not played well enough this season to be immune from critism and Hock in particular has also had his critics.

Unless you think Lockers and Ashton can do no wrong I don't see your point.

Dave

[adrenalinxx]

Every player in the Wigan team is open to criticism at some stage, how much criticism depends on the player and how bad that person is playing.

Hock came under criticism for giving away too many penalties and at times some daft offloads but apart from that his performances have been ok. He started off the season very well but has declined a bit in recent weeks mainly because he couldn't keep up that intensity every week, the problem is the replacements like Hansen are just not up to the same standard.

LeuLeui has also been doing ok for Wigan, he avoided criticism mainly because he is new to the squad and because people talk about this great Barrett-LeuLeui partnership which needs time. LeuLeui is doing a lot of work for Wigan since Barrett can only be bothered to play for 20 minutes each week.

The biggest criticism of our new half backs is their defence, yes they put in some great tackles but both tend to rush out the line for no reason, just look at the one of the Wellens tries on Saturday where LeuLeui has run out the line to tackle......no one :conf:

[highland convert]

It is all to do with pedistools. Some are set up by reputation and position. Hock and Lulu are labourers. Head down and get on with the job. Barrett lockers ashton fielde are set up on pedistools and when they do not perform we use them as a coconut shy. When you buy the best you expect the best. Once wigan play as a team we will win. HC