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Re: Stains sign ANOTHER NR...

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:06 pm
by standishwarrior
cpwigan posted:
:conf: Does the salary cap only apply to Wigan

Saints have no money. They sign Flannery, a decent player. Hooper was ion a low contract. They nearly got rid of him before he retired. They must be paying their youngsters more too as they mature.

Hull sign 2 players from the NRL and neither comes cheap.
i was talking to some1 who know's shaun long very well a brother some might say and he told me apart from sculthorpe every at saints are on a similar wage and they make the rest of there wages up in win bonus's! maybe thats how they get away it!

Re: Stains sign ANOTHER NR...

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:10 pm
by fitzy
do bonus's not count under the salary cap then?

Re: Stains sign ANOTHER NR...

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:12 pm
by GeoffN
fitzy posted:
do bonus's not count under the salary cap then?
Yes, they do indeed.

Re: Stains sign ANOTHER NR...

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:13 pm
by standishwarrior
iv no idea!! me and a lad from work were having a chat about payments/bonus's being made to the players during the challenge cup does that not count on the salery cap??

Re: Stains sign ANOTHER NR...

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:15 pm
by fitzy
so if bonus's do count then where back to square one how do they keep them under the salary cap?

Re: Stains sign ANOTHER NR...

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:17 pm
by cpwigan
Bonuses are part and parcel of the cap. The way I see it is this. Sculthorpe we know is on £250,000; Long, Wellens, Cunningham, Cayless are all on excellent money. Gilmour, Wilkin, Roby, Graham, Gidley, Meli, Gardener, Talau, Fasavalu, Hooper, Fozzard and Bennett are all on very good money. I believe those players equate to virtually 90% of the Saints cap. Why? Hargreaves was signed because they got him cheap and he was all they could afford.

Since then. Saints have lost Hooper BUT had to re sign several youngsters on better contracts. Now IMO, that leaves little leeway for Flannery who is a decent money earner.

Re: Stains sign ANOTHER NR...

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:18 pm
by cpwigan
Let's say

Long, Wellens, Cunningham, Cayless = £125,000 each

Gilmour, Wilkin, Roby, Graham, Gidley, Meli, Gardener, Talau, Fasavalu, Hooper, Fozzard and Bennett = £80,000 each

NOT MUCH MONEY LEFT

Re: Stains sign ANOTHER NR...

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:19 pm
by standishwarrior
maybe they are paying him the same as hooper then come the end of season may release afew players and offer flannery an improved deal

Re: Stains sign ANOTHER NR...

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:21 pm
by standishwarrior
cp..what about bonus's paid during the challenge cup?thats a different comp so do they not count on the cap?

Re: Stains sign ANOTHER NR...

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:30 pm
by fitzy
good point standish warrior and if bonus's do not count in the cup then that could be a simple way round it