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Re: Nicky Stanton

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:22 am
by The King
gpartin posted:
cpwigan posted:
Kerry Boustead, Marcus Bai, Roger Millward
Marcus Bai - desperately small????? :o

Height 1.8m (5 ft 11)

Weight 95kg (15 stone)

Have you been on the pop this evening by any chance :lol:
Thats what I was thinking :o Also to compare Stanton with scrum halfs and players from decades ago is irelevant as he is not a half back and the game has changed an awful lot in even the last 10 years, never mind the last 20 or 30.

Re: Nicky Stanton

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:30 am
by cpwigan
No pop I was thinking about Bai in his early days. Melbourne etc. Much lighter.

Anyhow you guys are so sizeist. I once saw a man play professional rugby league in Wigan with only ONE (1) arm :)

Re: Nicky Stanton

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:32 am
by cpwigan
Players from the past had it much tougher. The game was brutal in comparison. So if Roger Millward can survive in the middle of that anybody can survive in any other era.

Other players Paul Bishop, Sam Obst, Joey Hayes

Re: Nicky Stanton

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:51 am
by The King
cpwigan posted:
Players from the past had it much tougher. The game was brutal in comparison. So if Roger Millward can survive in the middle of that anybody can survive in any other era.

Other players Paul Bishop, Sam Obst, Joey Hayes
What rubbish. The game was completely different and as such there are loads of players that wouldnt be able to play in todays era. It may have been brutal (dirty) but that has sweet fa to do with making a tackle, catching a bomb etc in todays game. Players weren't half as big then, there really wasnt strength, weights work, laughable fitness levels compared to today etc. A player that was small then wasnt against players anywhere near as big or powerful as they are now. The game is completely different and to say that a player from the past would definitely make it now because the game back then was brutal is just daft. Also the three players that you quote were/are all average at best

Re: Nicky Stanton

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:00 am
by pedro
I dont think thats what he meant. He was saying the game was harder then and small players did it. So in a game which isnt as dirty why cant they survive now.

Stanton would be a good winger in the first team as he plays with heart and that always adds a few pounds.

Re: Nicky Stanton

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:08 am
by The King
pedro posted:
I dont think thats what he meant. He was saying the game was harder then and small players did it. So in a game which isnt as dirty why cant they survive now.
I know exactly what he meant as I said in my post and I have said in my post why players from a different era wont necessarily make it in this one.

Re: Nicky Stanton

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:02 pm
by pedro
Never said they could they were saying in that era it was harder and small players palyed then and did well. The game might be faster and more skillful but its no-where near as brutal as it was.


Re: Nicky Stanton

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:29 pm
by Matthew
Jason Robinson wasn't exactly the biggest player in the team - remind me, where did he play?

Re: Nicky Stanton

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:39 pm
by cpwigan
King you are wrong about the past. Players were much more distinctive in size according to their position. Hence, many forwards were actually bigger in the past than the current one model fits all modern forwards. So you got some much bigger forwards in the past. Just to correct one notion you put forward. Yes, todays players are by and large fitter etc etc BUT that is not a given for every player. As an example. You will find no modern day forward as big and as fast as Dick Huddart. Likewise going even further back, Wigan had a forward Cherrington who was a big back rower BUT fast enough to play on the wing in a major final.

I could go on offering you examples ...

Re: Nicky Stanton

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:41 pm
by cpwigan
Two toughest wingers in British RFL? Mick Sullivan and Des Drummond. Neither was a monster. Far from it.